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Dog Found (and saved): Mt. Bierstadt!

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Re: Dog Found: Mt. Bierstadt!

Postby aortolani14 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:02 am

I keep reading all of this thread and I am just floored. The character and fortitude of the people here is unbelievable. I don't feel that I will be able to express to people how much I really do love her. I am in tears right now reading through this. I have never been in a bad situation of this magnitude in the wilderness before. I was thankful to get back safely, and immediately after that the guilt and sadness was overwhelming. The trek out passed abyss lake and down to the Scott Gomer Creek TH was taxing. We got lost a couple of times because that trail is not maintained or well traveled. Honestly if it wasn't for the hunters that we ran into who showed us the way out this story would still be a total mystery. I am in debt to so many people right now and I don't think there is anyway to repay them except to promise them all that I will never put Missy in that kind of danger again. I do take good care of her. You can ask anyone who knows us. I take her everywhere with me, and we hike several times a month. My handling of this whole situation so poorly is inexperience and being overwhelmed. I have never been so humble in my life.
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Re: Dog Found: Mt. Bierstadt!

Postby aortolani14 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:03 am

wisejared wrote:We are all human and all make mistakes. Good for you for admitting yours in a setting in which you will undoubtedly hear about them over and over again. There are obvious lessons to be learned, but I hope people can find forgiveness and that you get your dog back.


Thank you so much.

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Re: Dog Found: Mt. Bierstadt!

Postby speth » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:12 am

aortolani14 wrote:Missy was hurt during an attempt at crossing the Sawtooth.

The next couple of days was absolutely horrible wondering about her, if she was alive, or if she died. Thinking about her suffering was awful beyond words.

Many confidants comforted me by saying that she was probably gone from injury.

All I can say is that I am relieved that she is okay, I am ashamed that it was not me that started this thread, I am ashamed that it wasn't me who got her off of the mountain, I underestimated the good will and resolve of the hiking community of Colorado, and I am eternally grateful to all of you and to 9news.


What day did you climb Bierstadt?
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Re: Dog Found: Mt. Bierstadt!

Postby shea_nb » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:22 am

Wow!!! I will have to say it's very strong of you to come forward about all of this. Although for the safety of the dog and comfort of those involved with the rescue. I would not give you any information about the dog until proof of ownership and compensation to those involved could be given. I do find it kind of interesting the dog had no id tags. Just a rabies tag. Deliberate? or Coincidence? I would agree it was very important you were able to get yourself out of imminent danger. Just like if your in a plane with a loss of cabin pressure you put your mask on before your kids, BUT YOU still have to put your kids on. No reason to be upset anymore about all of this the dog is safe. I would just ask those involved to do what they think is best for the dog. Not cater to the emotions of a grieving individual who feels overwhelmed with a flurry of emotions about their dog coming back from the dead.

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Re: Dog Found: Mt. Bierstadt!

Postby thetoddman » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:38 am

speth wrote:
aortolani14 wrote:Missy was hurt during an attempt at crossing the Sawtooth.

The next couple of days was absolutely horrible wondering about her, if she was alive, or if she died. Thinking about her suffering was awful beyond words.

Many confidants comforted me by saying that she was probably gone from injury.

All I can say is that I am relieved that she is okay, I am ashamed that it was not me that started this thread, I am ashamed that it wasn't me who got her off of the mountain, I underestimated the good will and resolve of the hiking community of Colorado, and I am eternally grateful to all of you and to 9news.


What day did you climb Bierstadt?


I'll answer that - it was SUNDAY, AUGUST 5th!!!

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Re: Dog Found: Mt. Bierstadt!

Postby aortolani14 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:40 am

What day did you climb Bierstadt?[/quote]

Sunday the 5th. We submitted around 10ish and everything fell appart around noon in the sawtooth.

She doesn't have tags because she is always with me. She doesn't run away or anything like that. It was not deliberate.
I know that people are mad, and I get it. In fact I appreciate it. I am learning so much from all of this. Just knowing that there are so many people that are willing to do something like this is a huge eye opener. I can't bring you all there to when I made that choice and what was going through my head. My kids, my friends son, a lot. I do know that I do want my Missy Girl back. I also know that there are many people that think I don't deserve her back. I can tell you that she would be very happy to see me. I have learned a lot and I am convicted to never let this happen again. Missy is getting another chance, I am asking the same.

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Re: Dog Found: Mt. Bierstadt!

Postby Navigaiter » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:44 am

aortolani14, I wish I could show more character or reserve or dignity or compassion or whatever it is that should be showed at a moment like this, but I just can't. All I can say is, you left Missy on that mountain, and now she deserves to live with someone who cared enough to rescue her. 7 days she laid there bleeding, hurt, alone, tired, hungry and thirsty.

Her old life ended when the people she counted on the most left her, and her new life begins with one of the rescuers, or anyone who won't abandon her, for that matter.

I'm glad you get some closure in knowing she's alive and healthy.

I will say it took a healthy amount of guts to come out at all. It's going to get much uglier on here before it gets better.

The amount of restraint it takes to not say more is epic.

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Re: Dog Found: Mt. Bierstadt!

Postby thetoddman » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:49 am

Navigaiter wrote:aortolani14, I wish I could show more character or reserve or dignity or compassion or whatever it is that should be showed at a moment like this, but I just can't. All I can say is, you left Missy on that mountain, and now she deserves to live with someone who cared enough to rescue her. 7 days she laid there bleeding, hurt, alone, tired, hungry and thirsty.

Her old life ended when the people she counted on the most left her, and her new life begins with one of the rescuers, or anyone who won't abandon her, for that matter.

I'm glad you get some closure in knowing she's alive and healthy.

I will say it took a healthy amount of guts to come out at all. It's going to get much uglier on here before it gets better.

The amount of restraint it takes to not say more is epic.


+1

I have to add (and stress) that there were TWO humans there, not just you. And I think that is relevant to what YOU did (or did NOT do). You could have remained with your injured best friend and responsisbility while the other human went down and reported the situation.

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Re: Dog Found: Mt. Bierstadt!

Postby Wish I lived in CO » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:51 am

Great job to the rescuers, hooray for a great ending!

aortolani14: Very big of you to step forward and own up to the situation. Forgiveness is a very necessary ingredient for life. I'll be the first. While you certainly had a day or two of regrettable inaction after your hike, I'm now impressed with your humbleness, remorse, and apparent willingness to hike smarter (at least get some dog booties!). The hallmark of true remorse is to change, it seems you want to do that. I've done shameful things in my life and always appreciated when I was extended forgiveness and that there could be restoration. Happy hiking.
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Re: Dog Found: Mt. Bierstadt!

Postby evepin » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:56 am

aortolani14 wrote:I am sitting here refreshing the screen over and over waiting for people to wake. I am very certain that I have quite the s**t storm coming. But I have to take the good with the bad, with something this good there is a lot of bad I suppose. They can say what ever they want, I will read and learn from every single word. It was my arrogance that put Missy in that situation. I don't ever want to do anything that could possibly risk her life again. I can't wait to hike with her again, but I will never put her in danger again.


Not only does this group love to hike, it also loves their dogs....no better place to live than Colorado! But several very brave people risked their own lives to bring your dog down safely, even attempting a rescue in the dead of night off the sawtooth. It will probably take time before you find forgiveness here, for putting your dog at risk in the first place, and then leaving her to starve or freeze to death in those harsh conditions. It's hard NOT to think about what she went through for the past seven days - abandoned, injured, bleeding, hungry - and your words alone may not be enough to justify getting your Missy back. Glad you and your other human friend made it down safely, but would you have done the same thing if Missy were another human hiking friend? If I went hiking with you and was injured, would you leave me up there too? Your explaination is plausible, but your decisions from beginning to end were bad - hopefully the experience will be a lesson to you and others who carelessly put their own dogs' lives in danger just for your own adventure.

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Re: Dog Found: Mt. Bierstadt!

Postby MattK » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:00 am

Navigaiter wrote:aortolani14, I wish I could show more character or reserve or dignity or compassion or whatever it is that should be showed at a moment like this, but I just can't. All I can say is, you left Missy on that mountain, and now she deserves to live with someone who cared enough to rescue her. 7 days she laid there bleeding, hurt, alone, tired, hungry and thirsty.

Her old life ended when the people she counted on the most left her, and her new life begins with one of the rescuers, or anyone who won't abandon her, for that matter.

I'm glad you get some closure in knowing she's alive and healthy.

I will say it took a healthy amount of guts to come out at all. It's going to get much uglier on here before it gets better.

The amount of restraint it takes to not say more is epic.


Well said and completely agree. I am floored that a person, who supposedly loved their dog so dearly, wouldn't go back the next day with a shelter, food and water and, albeit slowly, work the dog out. I am glad the pup is okay due to some amazing people, and hopefully there are lessons to be learned for all dog owners in this fiasco.

-Research your route well and don't get in over your head. Just like yourself, build your dogs experience up.
-Be prepared and know of plans/practice for extracting your dog.
-First-Aid Kit: Add doggie specific stuff. Talk to your vet.
-Booties, booties, booties: Even if for just emergencies, but make sure your dog is used to wearing them before hiking.
-Mentally prepare yourself to do whatever it takes to get them out. I'd spend days extracting my dog if that's what it takes. I am the one putting her in the situation, I am the one to get her out.

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Re: Dog Found: Mt. Bierstadt!

Postby Robzilla » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:03 am

Joe Simpson forgave Simon Yates. Just sayin'. Bad decisions and bad luck compound and soon you find yourself doing things you didn't think you would have done and can't understand why you did later when you look back on them.

Always figured my hundredth post would be used to advocate the metric system. Advocating forgiveness is just as good I suppose. Glad Missy, the owners, and the rescuers are all safe.

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