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Re: Waldo Canyon Fire (Colorado Springs)

Postby Dave B » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:26 pm

TehWoopig wrote:
Palmyra J wrote:
I am very tired of the Texas joke. I have been in CO on and off since birth...I have just never had the opportunity to be a full time resident. Texans are just like anyone else... we love the Rockies too. Many of us would love to be in the position to complain about all the tacky Texans that visit the mountains. In the mean time I will mind my manners with respect and try to protect all natural beauty.

God speed and safety to all those fighting this fire and to those living with the consequences.



I second this. While I live in Texas (I'd love to move but cannot at this point in time), I love Colorado more than any other place around. I'd like to point out that the local media here is not covering the wildfires much if at all...just like your local media most likely did not cover our wildfires last year. Ya, we had them too. The Bastrop County Complex fire destroyed over 1,600 homes and was responsible for 2 fatalities. Local news covers news that is usually relevant to the area. That's just the way it is. Unless there is a big group of Boy Scouts from Texas endangered there, the news isn't going to cover much of it. I've been following the fires all day every day lately because I only get to visit about once a year.

My dad is a wilderness firefighter, though at this point in his career he is basically retired from the fire fighting part. I have a great respect for fire fighters and the sacrifices that they are willing to give. I'm actually a little embarrassed that there is even "schoolyard finger pointing" going on here.

My deepest sympathies to the families who have lost their homes. Hopefully no casualties will result from these fires.



And I'm tired of scientists being portrayed as socialists bent on a one world government...

However, a thread regarding mass displacement and destruction of homes, property and peoples lives is probably not the time nor the place to get one's panties in a bunch about unrelated matters.
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Re: Waldo Canyon Fire (Colorado Springs)

Postby TehWoopig » Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:43 pm

Dave B wrote:
TehWoopig wrote:
Palmyra J wrote:
I am very tired of the Texas joke. I have been in CO on and off since birth...I have just never had the opportunity to be a full time resident. Texans are just like anyone else... we love the Rockies too. Many of us would love to be in the position to complain about all the tacky Texans that visit the mountains. In the mean time I will mind my manners with respect and try to protect all natural beauty.

God speed and safety to all those fighting this fire and to those living with the consequences.



I second this. While I live in Texas (I'd love to move but cannot at this point in time), I love Colorado more than any other place around. I'd like to point out that the local media here is not covering the wildfires much if at all...just like your local media most likely did not cover our wildfires last year. Ya, we had them too. The Bastrop County Complex fire destroyed over 1,600 homes and was responsible for 2 fatalities. Local news covers news that is usually relevant to the area. That's just the way it is. Unless there is a big group of Boy Scouts from Texas endangered there, the news isn't going to cover much of it. I've been following the fires all day every day lately because I only get to visit about once a year.

My dad is a wilderness firefighter, though at this point in his career he is basically retired from the fire fighting part. I have a great respect for fire fighters and the sacrifices that they are willing to give. I'm actually a little embarrassed that there is even "schoolyard finger pointing" going on here.

My deepest sympathies to the families who have lost their homes. Hopefully no casualties will result from these fires.



And I'm tired of scientists being portrayed as socialists bent on a one world government...

However, a thread regarding mass displacement and destruction of homes, property and peoples lives is probably not the time nor the place to get one's panties in a bunch about unrelated matters.


Then maybe people should stop making derogatory statements to begin with.

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Re: Waldo Canyon Fire (Colorado Springs)

Postby moneymike » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:35 pm

Does anyone know how one would go about finding out if a certain house has been burned. I would like to know if my parents' house in Peregrine burned down. Maybe someone has a recent picture or a link to recent pictures of the peregrine area?

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Re: Waldo Canyon Fire (Colorado Springs)

Postby MUni Rider » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:38 pm

http://photos.denverpost.com/mediacenter/2012/06/photos-waldo-fire-aerial-photos-by-the-denver-post-staff/38644/#name%20here

lots of pics, mostly Mountain Shadows Subdivision and a few of the Flying W Ranch entertainment center.

It may let a few readers see if their house was saved.

edit: moneymikes post wasn't there when I started mine, but how is that for timing. :-o
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Re: Waldo Canyon Fire (Colorado Springs)

Postby Gareth » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:45 pm

SuperiorTrailHiker wrote:Thoughts are with all of you immediately affected by these fires. I was on the Superior Trail in northern Minnesota this past weekend, after the opposite problem had occurred a few days before - ten inches of rain in just a few hours, on top of an already very wet month.

There's very little topsoil up there, a thin dusting over a lot of basalt, and the shore declines down from the Sawtooth range to Superior - in some places dramatically. The rivers and hillsides were shedding water at an incredible rate, and Duluth and other towns suffered hundreds of millions of dollars in damages. I have not heard of loss of human life - some unfortunate animals were trapped at the Duluth zoo and drowned, but the material wreckage was pretty incredible.

The sense of apocalypse was up there, too, when you see full-grown pines lodged sideways in bridge rails, structures floating along the Superior shoreline and rivers that are usually calm little rocky streams transformed into full-blown torrents twenty feet over their banks. Although I wasn't directly affected by that flooding, and the damage and imminent danger pales in comparison to these fires, I can certainly empathize with the feeling of seeing a familiar landscape transformed into something that just feels wicked.

I join in with the other non-Coloradans here who love the state and the landscape and wish they were positioned to provide more immediate help.

As someone who loves northern Minnesota, as well as Colorado, and who has been to Duluth and the Lake Superior Zoo, I was saddened to learn the news last week about the flooding and destruction, and the sad news about the animals which drowned. Last week I followed that story from afar. This week I've been glued to the news about the new fires in Colorado. I spent all of Tuesday evening following the horrible developments in CO Springs, as well as in Boulder. My boss was actually camping just off of highway 24 when the Waldo Canyon Fire started on Saturday. They saw smoke rising up behind the mountains just to the NE of their campground. They decided to evacuate that afternoon. Despite that fact that I am removed from all of these tragedies by many miles (though CO, much less so than MN), I still can't help but to care about them, and to feel a little bit of the pain being felt by those involved. I sincerely hope and pray that things begin to get better, both for all those effected, and for the natural situations/phenomena which are causing these destructive disasters.
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Re: Waldo Canyon Fire (Colorado Springs)

Postby tmathews » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:51 pm

moneymike wrote:Does anyone know how one would go about finding out if a certain house has been burned. I would like to know if my parents' house in Peregrine burned down. Maybe someone has a recent picture or a link to recent pictures of the peregrine area?


I don't think the Peregrine are has been touched, but fill out this form and someone will get in touch with them. http://www.springsgov.com/template/WaldoCanyonNotify.asp

I just saw this on Twitter:

El Paso County PIO ‏@epcpio

6/28 mtg Re: homes in burn area. ID req’d. Mayor to announce time/loc/area @ 4 pm. #waldocanyonfire
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Re: Waldo Canyon Fire (Colorado Springs)

Postby Tim A » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:54 pm

@TehWoopig, I'm completely in your corner being a Texan myself who loves visiting Colorado. All the same, this board is filled with people who enjoy the occasional trolling, and so I see frequent derogatory comments aimed at getting a response, and when you respond, further "natives" jump on the wagon and tell you to "untangle your panties." Being a teacher of public school students, I get paid to deal with that kind of behavior 60ish hours a week, so I choose to ignore it when visiting online boards such as these, as there's no winning. I am fortunate that for the most part the Coloradoans I meet on the trails and in "real life" are much less derogatory and sarcastic about "outsiders" as people on these boards would have the world believe.

@OldSchool70,

Your wisdom demands I invite you to my classroom at some point to speak/lecture to young budding minds about the idea of holding the tongue (or fingers) from typing or speaking things which gratify in the moment but which isolate us from the greater humanity.


My heart aches for all of those who are currently living in fear and anxiety about what the future holds. A friend of mine took his orchestra students on a trip last year to DC, and while they were gone, the fires here in Texas took some of their homes. They came home to nothing. As much as that shakes up adults who "understand" the nature of disasters like this, the damage it causes a young person is tremendous. I hope and pray the climate smiles on CO and provides the firefighters with an ally to put these out.

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Re: Waldo Canyon Fire (Colorado Springs)

Postby SuperiorTrailHiker » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:08 pm

Gareth wrote:As someone who loves northern Minnesota, as well as Colorado, and who has been to Duluth and the Lake Superior Zoo, I was saddened to learn the news last week about the flooding and destruction, and the sad news about the animals which drowned.



The satellite images are pretty telling (Duluth is at the point in the lower left of the lake, for those not previously familiar):

http://coastwatch.glerl.noaa.gov/modis/modis.cgi/modis?region=s&page=1

That's a whole lotta stuff in the lake.

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Re: Waldo Canyon Fire (Colorado Springs)

Postby tmathews » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:13 pm

moneymike wrote:Does anyone know how one would go about finding out if a certain house has been burned. I would like to know if my parents' house in Peregrine burned down. Maybe someone has a recent picture or a link to recent pictures of the peregrine area?


It may be moving into the Peregrine area now....

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Re: Waldo Canyon Fire (Colorado Springs)

Postby susanjoypaul » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:49 pm

moneymike wrote:Does anyone know how one would go about finding out if a certain house has been burned. I would like to know if my parents' house in Peregrine burned down. Maybe someone has a recent picture or a link to recent pictures of the peregrine area?

From: The Gazette

1:45 p.m.

From Colorado Springs spokeswoman Mary Scott:

There will be a meeting tonight to inform residents whether the Waldo Canyon fire damaged their homes. The location and time will be confirmed at the 4 p.m. press conference. The meeting will be limited to residents in certain areas: It is not open to the public. Invited residents should bring identification.

Gazette.com will have details when available.

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Re: Waldo Canyon Fire (Colorado Springs)

Postby d_baker » Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:23 pm

To anyone that took offense to my comment.....
d_baker wrote:I'm in Texas, and the news down here is not covering it. Imagine that.

I'm sorry.
My point was only that I'm NOT in Colorado, therefore news coverage of course is going to be scarce. I could have wrote I'm in Vermont, and the end result of not having news coverage would have been the same.
[I should have used pink font for 'Imagine that'. I'll never learn.]

Anyway, I'm still thinking of all of you in Co Springs & surrounding areas, and I'm sure things will be better down the road after this bump.

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Re: Waldo Canyon Fire (Colorado Springs)

Postby tmathews » Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:39 pm

The Pike and San Isabel National Forests were placed under a Stage 2 fire restriction today: http://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/psicc/alerts-notices/?aid=12592

Also, the mayor just announced the number of houses lost is approximately 346....

10% containment.

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