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Re: Gotta vent - atypical dog story

Postby davebobk47 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:19 pm

Bobo wrote:Am I a bad dog owner? I don't think so, but, here's my story. Two years ago, I took "Buddy" along for a Tour de Massive (my avatar is actually from early in that hike). Buddy's in good shape. He was my training partner for marathon training, so a 20 mile run on dirt/rocky trails is not unusual for him. What happened though is that the rocks on massive were tougher on his paws than I expected, so by the time we started the descent off the ridge after hitting all the summits, his paws were sore. We were only about halfway down that steep descent before he started having real problems. He weighs about 85lb, so carrying him in my arms wasn't an option, so I tried to get him into my pack, no dice...way too big. Sadly it turned into a "death march". I'd go a little ways, he'd come along, then stop. I'd have to go back, carry him a few steps, then encourage him to go a few hundred feet, then repeat the process. I'm sure he was in pain, but I couldn't see much choice. Eventually, I decided to go ahead to the car, get my sleeping bag, some extra food, and come back and set up a bivy with him. The further ahead of him I got, the more determined he was to follow. If he wasn't going to stay put, I couldn't charge ahead. Eventually we got off the steep stuff, and his paws didn't seem to bother him as much, so we hoofed it back to the car. Shortly after that I got him some dog booties. The booties are great, although they do cause traction issues on snow. Despite the booties, I decided not to take him on Challenger/Kit Carson due to rockfall issues.


Glad to hear he made it through okay.

The worst was when I saw a guy on the Incline with a wiener dog. It was like 10 lbs and he was swearing at it like a sailor because it wouldn't go any further. First, he had made it 3/4 of the way and second, some of those steps are 3 - 4 times his height. Those dogs aren't quite built for the incline. Instead of the guy yelling at the dog for being lazy why didn't he stop being lazy and pick the dog up and help him out. A few words from me only shut the guy up for about 10 seconds. Wish I could tie a leash around his neck and bring him with me on a 14er... :twisted:
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Re: Gotta vent - atypical dog story

Postby Mel McKinney » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:29 pm

Bobo wrote:Am I a bad dog owner? I don't think so, but, here's my story.


No. You saw that he was not doing well and tried to get him back to where he was safe and comfortable. The yahoos listed in the other stories didn't know and didn't care, or did know and just didn't care. :roll: Honestly, yelling at a Dachshund because his little legs can't go any faster up a 14er! It would be fun to "drag" that owner along on a hike. "Come on, Fat A$$! No stopping to rest!" :twisted:
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Re: Gotta vent - atypical dog story

Postby gander4 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:40 pm

Bobo wrote:Am I a bad dog owner? I don't think so, but, here's my story. Two years ago, I took "Buddy" along for a Tour de Massive (my avatar is actually from early in that hike). Buddy's in good shape. He was my training partner for marathon training, so a 20 mile run on dirt/rocky trails is not unusual for him. What happened though is that the rocks on massive were tougher on his paws than I expected, so by the time we started the descent off the ridge after hitting all the summits, his paws were sore. We were only about halfway down that steep descent before he started having real problems. He weighs about 85lb, so carrying him in my arms wasn't an option, so I tried to get him into my pack, no dice...way too big. Sadly it turned into a "death march". I'd go a little ways, he'd come along, then stop. I'd have to go back, carry him a few steps, then encourage him to go a few hundred feet, then repeat the process. I'm sure he was in pain, but I couldn't see much choice. Eventually, I decided to go ahead to the car, get my sleeping bag, some extra food, and come back and set up a bivy with him. The further ahead of him I got, the more determined he was to follow. If he wasn't going to stay put, I couldn't charge ahead. Eventually we got off the steep stuff, and his paws didn't seem to bother him as much, so we hoofed it back to the car. Shortly after that I got him some dog booties. The booties are great, although they do cause traction issues on snow. Despite the booties, I decided not to take him on Challenger/Kit Carson due to rockfall issues.


You're not a bad dog owner. Everyone makes mistakes but the difference is you care about your dog, unlike that other guy. Glad he turned out ok.

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Re: Gotta vent - atypical dog story

Postby rlynn » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:45 pm

Bobo wrote: Eventually, I decided to go ahead to the car, get my sleeping bag, some extra food, and come back and set up a bivy with him.


Even though he kept following you, I'm sure it was really hard to make the decision to leave him. Hopefully I won't ever find myself caught in a situation like this (fingers crossed). Glad he made it!
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Re: Gotta vent - atypical dog story

Postby so_il_summit » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:51 pm

my dog never shows any signs of fatigue or pain until he wakes up from his post summit nap, i feel the same way.

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Re: Gotta vent - atypical dog story

Postby cheeseburglar » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:26 pm

I've got an atypical dog story...
In Nepal, it is considered very auspicious if a dog, especially a black dog, follows you on the trail.
We walked up to a little viewpoint called Chhukhung Ri at about 18,500 feet and this dog followed us all the way from town. The dog didn't have an owner and probably had never slept indoors a day in his life. I think no one ever formally fed him either, he just kind of cleaned up the town every night after dinner. I shared a little snack with him. He stayed up there after we went down, probably waiting for the next group to arrive. I did see him later that night wandering the streets of the town.
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Re: Gotta vent - atypical dog story

Postby Mel McKinney » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:36 pm

cheeseburglar wrote:I've got an atypical dog story...
In Nepal, it is considered very auspicious if a dog, especially a black dog, follows you on the trail.
We walked up to a little viewpoint called Chhukhung Ri at about 18,500 feet and this dog followed us all the way from town. The dog didn't have an owner and probably had never slept indoors a day in his life. I think no one ever formally fed him either, he just kind of cleaned up the town every night after dinner. I shared a little snack with him. He stayed up there after we went down, probably waiting for the next group to arrive. I did see him later that night wandering the streets of the town.


Awesome story!
Interesting. I read recently that black dogs have a tougher time being adopted in the US because of some subconscious bias or fear of black dogs.
Mountains cast spells on me - Why, because of the way Earth-heaps lie, should I be Chocked by joy mysteriously; stilled or drunken-gay? Why should a brown hill trail Tug at my feet to go? Why should a boggy swale Tune my heart to a nameless tale Mountain marshes know?
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Re: Gotta vent - atypical dog story

Postby 1moremile » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:09 pm

2_Salukis wrote:So we're headed up Handies and this guy is coming down a few yards off the trail, just kind of meandering along. I'm thinking, should I tell him he should be on the trail or just mind my own business? :-k Then he yells something up in the air and completely unintelligible to everyone in our group, so I figure he's better left alone.

About 500yds later, this dog appears around a rock cropping on the trail. It's got a soaked leash on, but no one holding it. We initially get a growl, but it settles down OK without too much coaxing. :x


I wonder if the owner wasn't having a touch of ye olde altitude sickness. Sounds like the dog wasn't afraid or mistrustful of humans, so it probably was normally treated well. Or so I hope.

Anyway, thanks or no thanks you did the right thing. Thank you for caring an being mindful.

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Re: Gotta vent - atypical dog story

Postby 1moremile » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:11 pm

cheeseburglar wrote:I've got an atypical dog story...

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Love that shot!

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Re: Gotta vent - atypical dog story

Postby 1moremile » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:34 pm

Bobo wrote:Am I a bad dog owner?


Nope, don't think so. You took care of your dog as soon and as well as possible.

We had a similar experience with one of our beloved Italian greyhounds (may she RIP) on a 16-mile hike in the Desolation Wilderness Area. Our pooch weighed 14 pounds, so we were able to carry her out. She loved all-day hikes and had no previous pad issues, so we assumed the type of rock was the culprit and made sure not to expose her to that again. The good news, I guess, is that after Wonderhubby carried her most the way out, she became a daddy's girl. She had previously been my trail buddy.

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Re: Gotta vent - atypical dog story

Postby 2_Salukis » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:24 pm

cheeseburglar wrote:Maybe he was picking his nose when the dog saw a marmot and took off?
Would you have had a different opinion if he thanked you profusely?
It's a good thing that story is atypical and not a typical dog story. Typically there would be no leash at all!


I didn't have an issue with how they ended up separated -- s**t happens. I wasn't looking for profuse thanks either. Just some sort of sigh of relief that he had his dog back, and that some stranger went to a more than a little trouble to make it happen.

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Re: Gotta vent - atypical dog story

Postby Mel McKinney » Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:18 am

2_Salukis wrote:I didn't have an issue with how they ended up separated -- s**t happens. I wasn't looking for profuse thanks either. Just some sort of sigh of relief that he had his dog back, and that some stranger went to a more than a little trouble to make it happen.


Why not a profuse thanks? Sheesh, not too much to ask for considering the circumstances, for either you or Aubrey in your situations.
Mountains cast spells on me - Why, because of the way Earth-heaps lie, should I be Chocked by joy mysteriously; stilled or drunken-gay? Why should a brown hill trail Tug at my feet to go? Why should a boggy swale Tune my heart to a nameless tale Mountain marshes know?
--- Belle Turnbull ("Mountain-Mad")

"Nothing is so embarrassing as watching someone do something that you said couldn't be done."
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