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Re: Climax Mine reopened.

Postby Furthermore » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:45 pm

Does anyone have before pictures? I'll have to see what I have.

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Re: Climax Mine reopened.

Postby Tigerbear » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:56 pm

Don't forget that access to many places in colorado would not be possible without mining roads! ](*,)
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Re: Climax Mine reopened.

Postby Furthermore » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:00 pm

Looks like a good 20-30 feet was chopped.

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Re: Climax Mine reopened.

Postby Ed Matthews » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:53 pm

I think some people obviously cared about climbing this "insignificant" mountain....just judging from the responses.

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Re: Climax Mine reopened.

Postby Monster5 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:31 pm

milan wrote:So, who hiked it after me? Was I honoured to be the last one on the "origami bird" of 13 400 feet of height? Actually, just under the bird - but touched it from below :)


I have a suspicion that you might not have been. The origami bird was still fluttering a month ago, according to a friend.

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Judging from the road orientation and position, I think 30' is about right.



Tigerbear wrote:Don't forget that access to many places in colorado would not be possible without mining roads! ](*,)


This ain't exactly your average mine, nor is it some backwoods road with scattered shafts. It's a friggin' disappearing mountain with square miles of land inundated and off limits due to instability, dated claims, and water treatment ponds. Yes, mining is essential, but there are far better practices available presently than there were in the (not too distant) past. Those policies are implemented to avoid further massive environmental disasters and significant hazards to public health. That stuff isn't all simply media hype, public misperception, and Boulder hippy fanfare, though there is plenty of that around too. But whatever. It's not like I've studied and worked on this stuff considerably or anything.

live4pc wrote:Am I missing something? Is that land is privately owned? If so it should be end of story - show some respect for other people's stuff. It seems to me it was and is an insignificant mountain no one cared about before it was/is mined.


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Re: Climax Mine reopened.

Postby ajkagy » Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:36 pm

live4pc wrote:Am I missing something? Is that land is privately owned? If so it should be end of story - show some respect for other people's stuff.
It seems to me it was and is an insignificant mountain no one cared about before it was/is mined.


so basically all private land is insignificant in your eyes? So you have no trouble with corrupt land swaps or corporations raping the land for profits? I figured not, keep your political garbage in the off route forum...

Everytime I drive by that way the mine activity is a little disheartening. It's pretty much the live death of a mountain. I'm hoping crested butte can work out a deal to protect the red lady from US energy corp so it doesn't eventually have the same fate.
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Re: Climax Mine reopened.

Postby Ed Matthews » Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:50 pm

@live4pc: Just checkin out your peak list it shows you have climbed Bross...which is private property....if you are gonna talk the talk then walk the walk!!!

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Re: Climax Mine reopened.

Postby milan » Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:08 am

Monster5 wrote:I have a suspicion that you might not have been. The origami bird was still fluttering a month ago, according to a friend.

It actually does not matter that much for me, I am very happy I hiked her when she was 13 400 and not 13 370 feet tall. Pretty glad for all other hikers ho used the opportunity. I would like to see how it looked before the big mining actually started.

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How someone can say that a mountain over 13 000 feet (and 4000 m) is insignificant? Yes, you are lucky to have many hundreds of them just in Colorado but a lot of other countries have none! And yes, when I wanted to hike every ranked summit in Mosquito Range, it was important to hike Bartlett too.

Private land rights? Respect? Common. On one side, I understand that the civilization needs Molybdenum, especially when the country is in war, and I am not the one who would stirr the water, write to newspapers or anything. I can silently tolerate that. However I do NOT have ANY respect to private companies that cause environmental disasters. It can be this molybdenum mine or British Petrol. People would tell me off when I do a couple steps on alpine tundra and literally anihilating square miles of mountain environment is OK just because it's privately owned? Shame should be somewhere else not on a single man who walked on his own foot over private land causing ZERO impact. I agree on the other side, that from the safety point of view, it was not the smartest thing to do...

There were no signs on Bartlet either, at any point, although it was clear that it is the mine...

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Re: Climax Mine reopened.

Postby milan » Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:35 am

live4pc wrote:

Of course no one wants abuse but, just because they are mining there is abuse?? I am Indian/native american
most Indians I know abuse everything around them but, some don't that is part of why I am successful most of my friends I grew up with are not.


I just wanted to say, I don't feel bad for trespassing. I can accept mining activities but they do abuse the land and IMO they do it in a very bad manner. I am from a very industrialized country and love those mountains because they remind the last pieces of wilderness. I understand that tere is a compromise because people need metals, coal and other resources, I am not calling for closing the mine but I am far from being completely OK with that.

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Re: Climax Mine reopened.

Postby Tigerbear » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:11 am

Spinning out of control! :lol:
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Re: Climax Mine reopened.

Postby Furthermore » Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:56 am

Clearly, completing or working on the list is way more important than respecting private property. :shock:

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Re: Climax Mine reopened.

Postby Boggy B » Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:57 am

Furthermore wrote:Clearly, completing or working on the list is way more important than respecting private property. :shock:


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