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Postby Kiefer » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:28 pm

So in lieu of all the moisture from the storms last weekend, we decided to not do
KC and Challenger. Climbing rime on rock scares you can see from the pic below.
That's solid ice covering the trees.

I'm heading back on Tuesday. Leaving Estes pretty early. I want to be on the trail before sunrise.
Anyone interested?

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Re: KC-Challenger

Postby Brian C » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:46 pm

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Re: KC-Challenger

Postby FireOnTheMountain » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:12 pm

Yo Kiefer,

It wasnt rime ice, it was more like rime snow (up high at least). Craziest thing I have ever seen, but perhaps more noteworthy, SarahT had never seen anything like it either. We were thinking it was caused by really wet snowfall and then cold temps. Made for some spectacular views though!

I thought it actually took pon purchases quite nicely believe it or not.

Hope you have a good outing.
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Re: KC-Challenger

Postby Kevin Baker » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:54 pm

I would agree with Abe in that "rime snow" or "hoar frost" or whatever you want to call it is actually not too scary to climb on. It actually provides pretty good purchase on the rocks. I've climbed on it two weekends in a row and it makes for some amazing scenery!
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Re: KC-Challenger

Postby Matt Lemke » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:00 pm

Hey everyone...that rime snow stuff LOL :lol:
We get that all the freaking time in WA

You MUST climb on it in winter

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Re: KC-Challenger

Postby Kiefer » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:18 pm

Interesting. Thanks, Brian & Abe. I've seen it on that group climb of Uncompaghre with Britt, Darin, Jason on the summit and again on Humboldt. Fact the stuff on Humboldt (about 3 years ago) was as much as 3" thick on some rocks!
Guess I always figured it wasn't all that stable or trustworthy. Always climbing in dry snow, alpine ice, having the wet stuff for a change, really throws some people (myself) for a loop.

I imagine you're used to it up in the PNW eh, Matt?

BTW: Thanks for the trail lower down in Spanish, Abe! 8)

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Re: KC-Challenger

Postby mtn_nut » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:41 pm

I wonder who's that guy :-P

I wish i could the weather for the next few days looks great
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Re: KC-Challenger

Postby Dancesatmoonrise » Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:50 am

Kiefer, I love that photo.

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Re: KC-Challenger

Postby Kiefer » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:17 am

Thanks, Jim. That's actually Mtn Nut!
He was good enough to deal with my indecision of plans of climbing that stuff.
We tried instead for Blanca but the upper basin got whollped with a ton of snow.
Having no snowshoes, summit.

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Re: KC-Challenger

Postby I Man » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:20 am

Kiefer - 4 of us made it up KC yesterday and 2 of us continued over to Challenger. The conditions were good and there is a trench. Best of luck if you go! PM me if you have any specific questions.
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