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Re: Footwear Dilemma - What to wear?

Postby dmccool » Tue May 07, 2013 7:54 pm

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Re: Footwear Dilemma - What to wear?

Postby Liquid Shadow » Tue May 07, 2013 7:57 pm

dmccool wrote:Salewa Mountain Trainers


I have actually been looking at the Salewa Alp Trainer and the Salewa Wildfire. I think they would be a perfect addition to my footwear collection. Low ankle cut but thick and burly Vibram soles, exactly what I want.

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Re: Footwear Dilemma - What to wear?

Postby nyker » Tue May 07, 2013 8:30 pm

Liquid Shadow wrote:So I have climbed my first twelve 14ers in my trusty Columbia mid trailrunners (did Longs twice in them) and I know a lot of folks belong in the trailrunners camp. But now I have a pair of burly vintage Lowa mountaineering boots and my Evolv Cruzer approach/climb shoes, I'm starting to think that I should put some thought into using different shoes for different types of 14ers.

I'll be attempting the hardest 14ers this summer, including Capitol, Little Bear, the Maroon Bells and Pyramid. I know they are doable in trailrunners for many people, but would my mountaineering boots be more suitable for more difficult terrain like these? What about my climbing shoes? Would they be more helpful in the Hourglass gully or Knife Edge on Capitol?

Just trying to pick people's brains and see what your guys generally use for different types of terrain.

Thanks!


In short, if you current shoes work fine now (on peaks such as Longs which has decent scrambling sections) and have good soles remaining and you are not planning any snow climbs, just keep using them and save yourself some dough.

Your best footwear selection will also depend on whether there is snow on the trail and how much. If you purely looking at summer, it might not be an issue and trail runners or approach shoes will be fine (though the Elks seems loaded with snow currently, so maybe that means late summer this year); so consider that as well. Grip is also a key factor, so comfortable but worn soled trail runners may not be as good as newer mountaineering boot with new grippy soles. La Sportiva Trango S EVO boots are heavier than trail runners, but are light relative to other boots and have great soles for rock but also are good in Spring snow and hold a crampon nicely. I've hiked with some folks who always are seeking the absolute lightest shoe - then complain when it's too cold or not grippy enough or their foot hurts since the shoes might lack a harder sole like a real trail runner vs. running shoe.

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Re: Footwear Dilemma - What to wear?

Postby Kent McLemore » Wed May 08, 2013 5:09 am

Liquid Shadow wrote:Low ankle cut but thick and burly Vibram soles, exactly what I want.

The Patagonia A/C Drifter fits that bill.
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Re: Footwear Dilemma - What to wear?

Postby Dave B » Wed May 08, 2013 7:35 am

I'll just reitterate to wear whatever you find comfortable.

I wore hiking boots on Capitol, should have worn trail runners. The knife-edge is the easy part, the rotten sections below the ridge line are the problem and sticky shoes aren't really going to make it any better.

I wore approach shoes on Longs and was still even a bit nervous at some of the more slick rock sections. I found out that day that 16 miles in my approach shoes means I will lose at least two toe nails. I should have just worn trail runners.

I say find a pair of trail runners that are lauded for their traction, make sure they fit and haul-ass.
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Re: Footwear Dilemma - What to wear?

Postby Steve Climber » Wed May 08, 2013 8:25 am

Liquid Shadow wrote:
dmccool wrote:Salewa Mountain Trainers


I have actually been looking at the Salewa Alp Trainer and the Salewa Wildfire. I think they would be a perfect addition to my footwear collection. Low ankle cut but thick and burly Vibram soles, exactly what I want.


The Alp Trainers pop up on Steepandcheap for $99 fairly regularly. I've purchased (2) rounds of them so far, but had to return both as they were too small. Normal shoe is 11, bought 11 and 11.5 and both too small. Haven't seen 12's available on SAC yet :? but if they come up, I'm snatching them and hoping third times the charm. Obviously haven't hiked in them yet, but even after wedging into 11.5 and walking around the house a bit, they seem like they will work well. Stiff soled for edging and toe stances, but fairly pliable uppers for comfort into the high mileage hikes. They are built on a pretty narrow last though so if you have wide feet, they might be a bit snug.
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Re: Footwear Dilemma - What to wear?

Postby Liquid Shadow » Wed May 08, 2013 9:44 am

The low cut version of the Alp Trainer is usually $69.99 on SAC I think. Good to know that they run small though.

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Re: Footwear Dilemma - What to wear?

Postby CarpeDM » Wed May 08, 2013 10:20 am

I'm with Dave B: whatever's comfortable. Personally, I like to go lighter because, as wildlobo says, I like to get the feedback from the rock/trail. In 2012, I did all my summer hiking and scrambling in Boulder X approach shoes - some were 3-4 miles of good trail that led to loose scree, talus, and grippy rock. The only real problem was dirt/pebbles getting into the shoes - so I'll probably add some desert gaiters this year. Having said that, I'm starting to think about having a little ankle stability and have noticed that Neptune carries a mid-top version of the Boulder X that looks intriguing. (I won't buy from Neptune anymore, but I'll look into the shoe.)

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Re: Footwear Dilemma - What to wear?

Postby passionforhiking » Wed May 08, 2013 8:14 pm

Please explain what an approach shoe is!!

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Re: Footwear Dilemma - What to wear?

Postby crossfitter » Wed May 08, 2013 8:20 pm

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It's what you would get if trail runners and rock shoes bumped uglies. Really comfortable and work very well for climbing up to 5.6-5.7
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Re: Footwear Dilemma - What to wear?

Postby Liquid Shadow » Wed May 08, 2013 9:12 pm

These are the approach shoes I'm currently wearing for low 5s. They are Evolv Cruzers. They are pretty minimal though, closer to rock shoes than trail runners. I wouldn't feel comfortable hiking in them, plus I want to save the soles for rocks.
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Re: Footwear Dilemma - What to wear?

Postby Steve Climber » Thu May 09, 2013 7:13 am

Liquid Shadow - how do you like those? I was checking out approach shoes last night online and ran across them. They are VERY minimalistic which I think I would like for low 5th multi-pitch scrambles, but mixed feelings on being able to hike in them for a while too.

Crossfitter - same question to you, as I was checking those Scarpas out too (assuming that picture is you). Those seem like they would hike better, but not sure how I would like climbing in them...Would be cool to see the rest of that ink too :mrgreen:
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