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GPX File Downloads

Postby Cheyenne 14 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:27 pm

When downloading the gpx file it is now only showing the trailhead and summit coordinates when I used to get waypoints/coordinates for the entire trail. I'm downloading loading to Mapsource and then transferring to my Garmin gps. Has the gpx download files changed or am I doing something wrong?

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Re: GPS Coordinates

Postby BillMiddlebrook » Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:49 pm

They were changed a while back to include route points, instead of static waypoints. After opening the .GPX file in MapSource, click on the route tab to see the route and then navigate to it on the map. You should see the route points and when you download to your GPS, select waypoints AND routes. The route points should show up in the route on your GPS.

Here's the thread that lead to the format change: http://www.14ers.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=37425
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Re: GPS Coordinates

Postby Cheyenne 14 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:22 pm

Thanks Bill, that solved my issue

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Re: GPX File Downloads

Postby BillMiddlebrook » Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:15 am

More info:

Here's a screen shot from my Garmin eTrex Vista which shows how a route looks when I view it on the gps. This was the standard Blanca route GPX file opened in MapSource and exported to my GPS. The image shows the final route waypoints leading to the summit.

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Re: GPX File Downloads

Postby HighPlainsDrifter » Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:35 pm

BillMiddlebrook wrote:They were changed a while back to include route points, instead of static waypoints. After opening the .GPX file in MapSource, click on the route tab to see the route and then navigate to it on the map. You should see the route points and when you download to your GPS, select waypoints AND routes. The route points should show up in the route on your GPS.

Here's the thread that lead to the format change: http://www.14ers.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=37425



I have a Garmin 62s and I am at the pulling my hair out phase of frustration with downloading gpx files to this device. Where I am with it:

With my first attempt I followed Bill's advice above using MapSource. The waypoints are loading on the 62s, but not the route even though I have checked both the Waypoints and Routes boxes when I Send to Device. I get a Data Successfully Sent message everytime I try. Even more confounding is the fact that both the route and waypoints show up fine on my laptop screen on the MapSource map.

I also tried using Garmin's BaseCamp software to load the waypoints and routes on my 62s. The waypoint and route files are highlighted in the BaseCamp library and then I click edit and then click send to to my unit. Both the waypoints and route show up fine in the BaseCamp map display on my laptop, but I still have only the waypoints and not the route showing up on my 62s device.

I've attempted both methods multiple times, but to no avail. Just waypoints and not the route is displaying on my 62s.

Any thoughts as to what I might be doing wrong? At this point any and all advice, suggestions, help is most welcome. Thanks!

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Re: GPX File Downloads

Postby guangxiren » Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:52 pm

There is an issue with the gpx files downloaded from 14er. If you open the file, you will find <rte> and <rtept> tags which is route point in the GPX format, I am using Garmin Oregon 450T and it can't load those tags correctly, my solution is to replace all the tags as follows:

Original one from 14er for Mt Massive:
<rte>
<name>mass2</name>
<number>1</number>
<rtept lat="39.1534076929092" lon="-106.4635334014893">
<ele>3211.680</ele>
<name>W0</name>
</rtept>
.....
</rte>

The one with <trk>, <trkpt> which is track point in the GPX format (Garmin Oregon 450T can load this kind of format:
<trk><name>Mountain Massive</name>
<trkseg>
<trkpt lat="39.1534076929092" lon="-106.4635334014893">
<ele>3211.680</ele>
<name>W0</name>
</trkpt>
.....
</trk>

And you might need to change the header of the file too, but you can find some sample from the GRS like this:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no" ?>
<gpx xmlns="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1"
xmlns:gpxx="http://www.garmin.com/xmlschemas/WaypointExtension/v1"
xmlns:gpxtpx="http://www.garmin.com/xmlschemas/TrackPointExtension/v1" creator="Oregon 450T" version="1.1"
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1 http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1/gpx.xsd http://www.garmin.com/xmlschemas/WaypointExtension/v1 http://www8.garmin.com/xmlschemas/WaypointExtensionv1.xsd http://www.garmin.com/xmlschemas/TrackPointExtension/v1 http://www.garmin.com/xmlschemas/TrackPointExtensionv1.xsd">


If you have any trouble, please let me know which mountain you'd like to hike and I will get the file modified and send to you.

Thanks,

-Z
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HighPlainsDrifter wrote:
BillMiddlebrook wrote:They were changed a while back to include route points, instead of static waypoints. After opening the .GPX file in MapSource, click on the route tab to see the route and then navigate to it on the map. You should see the route points and when you download to your GPS, select waypoints AND routes. The route points should show up in the route on your GPS.

Here's the thread that lead to the format change: http://www.14ers.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=37425



I have a Garmin 62s and I am at the pulling my hair out phase of frustration with downloading gpx files to this device. Where I am with it:

With my first attempt I followed Bill's advice above using MapSource. The waypoints are loading on the 62s, but not the route even though I have checked both the Waypoints and Routes boxes when I Send to Device. I get a Data Successfully Sent message everytime I try. Even more confounding is the fact that both the route and waypoints show up fine on my laptop screen on the MapSource map.

I also tried using Garmin's BaseCamp software to load the waypoints and routes on my 62s. The waypoint and route files are highlighted in the BaseCamp library and then I click edit and then click send to to my unit. Both the waypoints and route show up fine in the BaseCamp map display on my laptop, but I still have only the waypoints and not the route showing up on my 62s device.

I've attempted both methods multiple times, but to no avail. Just waypoints and not the route is displaying on my 62s.

Any thoughts as to what I might be doing wrong? At this point any and all advice, suggestions, help is most welcome. Thanks!

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Re: GPX File Downloads

Postby BillMiddlebrook » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:05 pm

HighPlainsDrifter wrote:
BillMiddlebrook wrote:They were changed a while back to include route points, instead of static waypoints. After opening the .GPX file in MapSource, click on the route tab to see the route and then navigate to it on the map. You should see the route points and when you download to your GPS, select waypoints AND routes. The route points should show up in the route on your GPS.

Here's the thread that lead to the format change: http://www.14ers.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=37425



I have a Garmin 62s and I am at the pulling my hair out phase of frustration with downloading gpx files to this device. Where I am with it:

With my first attempt I followed Bill's advice above using MapSource. The waypoints are loading on the 62s, but not the route even though I have checked both the Waypoints and Routes boxes when I Send to Device. I get a Data Successfully Sent message everytime I try. Even more confounding is the fact that both the route and waypoints show up fine on my laptop screen on the MapSource map.

I also tried using Garmin's BaseCamp software to load the waypoints and routes on my 62s. The waypoint and route files are highlighted in the BaseCamp library and then I click edit and then click send to to my unit. Both the waypoints and route show up fine in the BaseCamp map display on my laptop, but I still have only the waypoints and not the route showing up on my 62s device.

I've attempted both methods multiple times, but to no avail. Just waypoints and not the route is displaying on my 62s.

Any thoughts as to what I might be doing wrong? At this point any and all advice, suggestions, help is most welcome. Thanks!

It should work with MapSource and your GPS but maybe there's an issue with how MapSource interfaces with your GPS model. You shouldn't have to modify the .GPX file and if you're seeing the route in MapSource, MapSource is recognizing the route and route points properly.

HighPlainsDrifter wrote:Even more confounding is the fact that both the route and waypoints show up fine on my laptop screen on the MapSource map.

^
This tells you that you don't have to modify the source GPX file as recommended by guangxiren.

I have an eTrex 30 and an eTrex Vista HCx and use MapSource to download 14ers.com .GPX files without issue. It downloads the waypoint+route and I can follow the route using the Routes page of the GPS.

IMPORTANT: The unit may not show the route until you select it from the Routes page (on the GPS) and click "MAP" or "View on Map" or whatever the option is.
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Re: GPX File Downloads

Postby BillMiddlebrook » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:16 pm

Don't forget this...
IMPORTANT: The unit may not show the route until you select it from the Routes page (on the GPS) and click "MAP" or "View on Map" or whatever the option is.

Which could be the step you're not performing when trying to view the route on the unit.
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Re: GPX File Downloads

Postby HighPlainsDrifter » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:20 pm

IMPORTANT: The unit may not show the route until you select it from the Routes page (on the GPS) and click "MAP" or "View on Map" or whatever the option is.


Doh. Problem solved for this neophyte GPS user. Massive thanks.

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Re: GPX File Downloads

Postby BillMiddlebrook » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:29 pm

Sweet
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Re: GPX File Downloads

Postby Pennacle » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:29 pm

On a tangent, if anyone prefers using a smart phone for this sort of navigation I highly recommend it. I haven't used my gps since switching. On android, the Locus Map application is awesome and can use KMLs, download maps (satellite, road, or topo) at all zoom levels, store all altitude data for a region, track routes, create routes, edit routes, list goes on.... one of the most thoroughly useful apps I have. The pro version is worth the green, but the free has just about everything you need until you start nerding out.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=menion.android.locus&hl=en

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Re: GPX File Downloads

Postby BillMiddlebrook » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:38 pm

Pennacle wrote:On a tangent, if anyone prefers using a smart phone for this sort of navigation I highly recommend it. I haven't used my gps since switching. On android, the Locus Map application is awesome and can use KMLs... one of the most thoroughly useful apps I have.

I'm too lazy to search for the threads right now but there were some previous discussions regarding GPS units vs smartphones.

One of the main issues seemed to be phone battery drain. Personally, I tried tracking on my Motorola Razr Maxx HD phone and it ate the battery so that was the last time I tried. I also like to leave my phone off and save the battery for emergency purposes and don't mind carrying the GPS and phone. But the smartphones are definitely getting better and so are the apps.
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