Dogs on 14ers?

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Should dogs be banned from 14ers?

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Postby paully » Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:46 am

Dog's are a lot like humans... if they're well trained then they're fine on the mountains. If they're not then leave them at home. Same with people. If you're too out of shape or too much of a selfish a-hole to keep our mountains clean, you shouldn't be up there. To say dogs are worse than humans is way too much of a blanket statement, as is saying that humans are worse than dogs.

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Postby lizzie2 » Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:49 am

People need to relax about dogs. Until I hear that a dog has eaten someone on the trail, I think this needs to be eliminated as an issue of any significance/importance.

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Postby paully » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:57 am

I disagree with that. There are far more things for dog owners to consider than just making sure they don't attack people. They should be more or less held to same standards as what you'd hold a human to. I agree that you can't expect a dog to intuitively know good climbing etiquette. It's up to the owner to have the dog trained. To say that people need to lighten up about dogs crapping on the trail, accosting people, or creating rock-fall danger is a bit of an overstatement.

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Postby krisp » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:29 pm

As long as your dog doesn't bother Kessler.... :wink:
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Postby Wuldier » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:40 pm

i voted yes, but i almost voted no, tho the people who DO! take them up the mountains i would like to see them leashed, not because they annoy me(when i go up the 14ers i never bump in to anyone, letalone there dogs) but for the dogs saftey! it would be heart breaking to see a dog die because of a fall!!
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Postby Wuldier » Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:34 am




I am 95% sure these are samoyeds.

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dog haters/control freaks:off with their heads!the problem i

Postby robert c weber » Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:55 pm

the problem is not the dogs, it's the yuppy control freaks that want to control the back country and force their uptight big city, big money, being used to have their "little people" bow to their every whim...they tendto be very unhappy...I know these people and they make me to see some a-hole try to lay a hand on my's time to fight back...too many people in the backcountry not to many dogs...this is only going to get worse...some wisea-- will mouth offto the wrong person and it will get put in his or her place..
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Postby CAYCE » Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:29 pm

I love dogs and dont mind seeing them on the trail, but dog fanatics out there always seem like the biggest yuppies. guess its all in youre interpetation of yuppie. Now this could start an interesting new thread.

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Postby coloradokevin » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:43 am

Jared, I agree with your above post... and also think it is ridiculous how worked up people are getting about this issue. I've hiked my entire life, and have a hard time accepting the credibility of some of the posts where people claim to have been attacked by dogs on damn near every trip they've taken to the mountains. It simply doesn't fit with my experiences on the trail. There are plenty of bad dog owners, and that's sad. All the same, there really aren't all that many bad dogs to encounter on the trail!

My dog is turning a year old at the end of this month. She's a 65lb German Shepherd/Akita mix. To date she has climbed three 14'ers, and hiked/backpacked countless other trails with me.

My dog is very well socialized, and fairly well trained. I don't mind owners of well trained dogs allowing their pets off-leash... For me this isn't typically an option at this time (my dog is going through her adolescent stage where she selectively ignores commands when she wants to explore someone/something new). So, given my dog's limitations at this point, she hikes with her leash on, hooked to my hipbelt while I hike with my poles. I'll occasionally unsnap her leash to clear obstacles and the like, but I certainly don't allow my pet to roam the mountain freely. I can make exceptions to this rule in areas where I know I won't encounter other people/dogs (these are her biggest weaknesses, as she loves to greet everyone... fortunately she hasn't been into the chasing wildlife thing).

I should also add that my dog wears a pup-pack when she climbs, and happily packs her own poop off the mountain. She's also fully conditioned for a 14'er ascent, and always has more energy than us after the climb!

My dog truly believes that she is the ambasador of the mountains, and tries her best to sway everyone she meets on the benefits of climbing with dogs!

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Postby madhatt » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:01 am

Well, I have to say i'm a bit mixed on this.

I have a dog "boxer" and she's great on the trail, doesn't bark or anything. Once I get off the main road there is NO way i'm putting her on a leash, the way I see it is this. If you have a dog that can get out of control then leash it up, but dogs like mine "which I know are cool non agressive dogs" don't need to be leashed all the time, Sure if there are small kids or someone who doesn't feel ok around dogs "which you can usually pick out of a crowd" then I'll leash her up.

As far as crapping on the trail goes? I've trained her to crap off the trail, and I don't pick it up... it's crap, not trash.

also, how many times have you been walking on a trail and come across some idiots plastic bag with dog crap in it. not for me man.

I say, these are the mountains and people that hike up there should be prepared to come across deer, bear, and dogs...
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Postby Starzz01 » Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:55 am

My personal opinion, I like dogs, but people really should keep them on a leash. It's easy for people to say, "hey, my dog is great and would never hurt anyone", but the people who come across your dog don't know that. I don't know how many times I've heard someone say, "Oh, I've never seen my dog act like that before", "or, "don't worry, she doesn't bite" as the dog is growling at someone.

If I'm 14,000 feet up, the last thing I want is a dog that's 200 yards away from its owner to come up on me, start growling and make me take a wrong step backwards, taking a 200 foot joyride down the side.

Again, I like dogs, and defend a person's right to bring a dog with them if the dog can handle it; I just think they need to keep the dog on a leash. Chances are, if it's out at a place like that, the dog really is great. Unfortunately, most people's prevailing experience with dogs is in an urban environment with people who barely know their dogs names, much less how to train them interact with people. And those experiences cause some people to be a bit dog shy.

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Postby co_whistlepig » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:40 am

I am not a huge dog fan. However, if one feels the need to bring their dog on the trail if feel that the dog: 1) needs to be able to do the peak, i.e. no miniature poodles, chihuahuas, etc, 2) Be very well trained or on a leash, I don't mind the friendly dog but wearing a 40 lbs pack with a jumping dog is uncomfortable, furthermore the wild life would also appreciate it. A dog that is carrying his own stuff or stuff of the owner is a plus. I respect a working dog more than a spoiled dog.
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