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What do you do with your camping gear

Leave camp set up until the return trip
66
79%
Stash gear somewhere hidden
12
14%
Carry full pack to the summit
6
7%
 
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Leave Gear for summit push

Postby colokeith » Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:10 am

I am new to climbing 14ers.

When camping the night before climbing do you leave your tent / bag set up and retrieve it on the way back down, do you break camp and stash the heavy gear somewhere hidden. Or do you carry a full pack to the summit?

It seems there is some benefits of each approach I am wondering what opinions on the best are
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Re: Leave Gear for summit push

Postby JohnWilliams » Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:16 am

Go with the easyest set up. The faster you move off the peak the safer you'll be. Why make your summit bid any more difficult than it has to be. On overnights I'll leave the tent set up, just in case i need to stay another night, for whatever reason.
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Re: Leave Gear for summit push

Postby Rcizzle » Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:44 am

I would never carry a "full" pack all the way to the summit, thats pointless, in all reality it is a race to the summit. I floor it to the summit and take my time back down based on situational awareness. Im 50-50 on whether you leave your site intact or stash your stuff away. If you are backpacking a great distance than stashing your stuff is not necessary. It depends on the "community" you are in. For example, if you figuratively backpack into Capitol (or other isolated mountains, snowmass, wetterhorn, wilsons, blancas) you will not see tourists but experienced climbers and generally everyone is in the same boat as you. It's perfectly acceptable to leave your site in tact for your return which many do. Now if you were camping near the Maroon Bells/popular mountain sites, that would a completely different story, there are tourists and amateur hikers all over the place who most likely didn't pack anything in. The last factor is the wildlife factor, despite the "cuteness" of mountain goats and there fury little friends, be cautious. They are huge threats to your gear. There are many horror stories of goats chewing up tents, shoes, sleeping bags, etc. so packing up your gear and hiding it in a spot THEY can't get to is not a terrible idea Common sense and judgement are key.
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Re: Leave Gear for summit push

Postby nomadelmundo » Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:47 am

I'd break it down and stash it somewhere. Doesn't really take that long. However, if you are exhausted after the summit, it might be nice for to find your tent already setup.

It really depends on the summit, time of r/t and possibility of vandalism. Most hikers are pretty respectful of others belongings, but you know how much $$$ you have invested in them, so [-o< no one takes'em or hide em.

For these 14ers, I haven't needed to camp yet, but I remember when after summitting Kilimanjaro, it was really nice to crawl into my sleeping bag and tent for a quick catnap, but there were porters and guides watching over your stuff on the tour.
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Re: Leave Gear for summit push

Postby Bean » Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:53 am

I'd be interested in hearing the reasoning behind the so-far single vote of carrying it all up. "Fail upwards" isn't all that necessary in Colorado.

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Re: Leave Gear for summit push

Postby nomadelmundo » Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:08 am

Bean wrote:I'd be interested in hearing the reasoning behind the so-far single vote of carrying it all up. "Fail upwards" isn't all that necessary in Colorado.


I guess the only time that makes sense is when it's not a round trip summit.
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Re: Leave Gear for summit push

Postby CO Native » Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:12 pm

Speed is safety. You don't want to be slowed down by carrying a bunch of unnecessary gear to the summit. You still need to carry enough to be prepared but a lot of the heavy camp stuff doesn't need to join you on the summit. I have never broken down camp before heading for the summit. The tent is usually still wet with condensation and dew in the morning, however if you break it down afterwards its dry and ready to go, unless it's raining of course however then you may enjoy having a tent to take a rest in.
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Re: Leave Gear for summit push

Postby climbing_rob » Tue Jan 04, 2011 1:30 pm

nomadelmundo wrote:
Bean wrote:I'd be interested in hearing the reasoning behind the so-far single vote of carrying it all up. "Fail upwards" isn't all that necessary in Colorado.


I guess the only time that makes sense is when it's not a round trip summit.
Or if you are training or if your overnight gear only weighs a couple pounds (mine does, in the summer) or if you want to be totally flexible on your descent, taking alternate routes down depending on the weather, lots of reasons.

Mine is the 2nd "carry full pack to the summit" vote though simply because like an idiot, I didn't read the OP first; I assumed it was talking about leaving even your summit pack below the summit to grab on the return, which I think is usually folly. No, I don't usually carry my full overnight gear to the summit, though as I've said, there are many situations and reasons to do so.

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Re: Leave Gear for summit push

Postby colokeith » Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:06 pm

Thanks for the responses!! Looks like there is a pretty good consensus.
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Re: Leave Gear for summit push

Postby CRAIGO » Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:53 pm

Be careful stashing trekking poles. I realized after I returned down from Pyramid's summit that marmots love to chew on neoprene. My poles were destroyed.

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Re: Leave Gear for summit push

Postby SuperiorTrailHiker » Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:56 pm

I've left my overnight gear set up dozens of times (although I usually break it down if I think someone else may come by who needs the space, before I'll get back), including a couple times in Colorado, and have never had anyone jack with my gear. It's off my radar as a possbility at this point (although I hear marmots like to chew on unguarded salty stuff, it hasn't happened to me yet).

Take the essentials to the summit with you in a lighter pack, leave the heavy stuff behind for the hike out. Break it down to make room for the next guy coming along if you're in a busy area.

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Re: Leave Gear for summit push

Postby lodidodi » Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:03 pm

I leave my camp setup too and agree there is usually condensation or your sleeping bag is a little moist so I like to let it dry. If it's a winter climb, bringing your sleeping bag for emergency is smart. It's nice to get back and go lay down if your camping another night but it sucks when you get done with your summit then have to break down camp and drive home when your already tired.

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