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Re: Almost FREE!

Postby EatinHardtack » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:03 pm

More good points. I'll end my little rant with this.

If you ever hit traffic from CO Springs, you are definitely doing something wrong. In 7+ years I have not had a single traffic issue from the Springs. If I lived in Denver and had to travel I70 every time then I would have burned out years ago.

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Postby taylorzs » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:04 pm

I started snowboarding in 03 and doing backcountry in 04. The first few years I was probably 40/60 backcountry to ski area. Every year got more backcountry heavy. The last few years, I have rarely gone to a ski area. I am about sixty days deep this season and one of them was at a ski area. When I get up in the morning, and think about what I am going to do for the day, skiing at a resort at this point, just never sounds very appealing. I would rather be out hiking and riding in the wilderness. Ski resorts remind me of amusement parks, full of tourists, noise, and commericialism (nothing wrong with these things, just not personally appealing). While I do not have anything against riding at a ski resort, I have found that I have almost zero interest in going to a ski area. I think I may be the first person in the history of Eldora's $100 college pass, where the resort actually made money off me this season. ](*,)
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Postby Easy Rider » Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:28 pm

Sorry Folks, Park's Closed!! Uhyuk!
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Postby Tony1 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:01 pm

This is my 5th year having a pass (RMSP), and I already know I'll be getting one next year too. I do feel where the OP and some commenters are coming from though. There are great areas at Copper, WP, and Steamboat to get away from crowds, but staying strictly in those areas just to avoid standing in lift lines feels like a chore. The quickness with how some lifts get bogged down is astounding too. The worst line I have ever stood in was at the Panoramic in Winter Park a few weeks ago where the single's line stretched out and around the first lift tower, up the run. I like my resorts though, and have never had the desire for backcountry skiing.

Then there's the recently proven fact that our snowfall just isn't as reliable as it could be. Yes, the powder here is among the best, but how often does that happen, really?

I really don't mind sharing the hills but the sheer amount of people is just too much for the resorts and roads to handle adequately, and I know I'm part of the problem too. Over the summer I decided to just continue living it up here until I graduate, and in the meantime look for a place like Colorado that's a little less overrun to settle.

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Postby YooperJonKornely » Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:23 pm

There are some good points here. I need to set the record straight a bit as my initial post might seem a little harsh. In using the words "burned out" and "chore" I did make it seem as though riding at resorts is terrible... that is not the truth at all. I started snowboarding in the very early 90's as a kid, and when my dad used to take me and my friend to the little resorts up in the michigan UP he would have talk to the manager of the resorts to get them to allow us on the hill! True story! They had not seen snowboards before. Growing up on these small hills and finally being in Colorado... trust me I don't take it for granted.

My main point was just that after 6 years... the enthusiasm I have for the big resorts has faded a bit, and I'm starting to want to do more. Be it going to other smaller resorts, hiking more, backcountry riding... I've just grown into more than just going to Summit County EVERY weekend. A few years ago this never even crossed my mind.

HardTack: You are very correct in that the ride from COS is awesome! Light traffic, great views... I agree I-25/I-70 would have truly burned me out a few years ago.

Looks like snow is on the way, Breck here I come again \:D/ Just maybe not as much next year...

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Re: Almost FREE!

Postby Jim Davies » Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:43 pm

You might want to try a Monarch pass instead of doing the big-resort thing next year. You get a few days at Loveland, Ski Cooper, Sunlight, Durango, and a bunch of other places included (one of which is Indianhead in the U.P. :)). Monarch has made some serious improvements to their facilities lately, too - paved parking lot! Adequate lodge space! Heaven!!!!

I talked to someone at Loveland last year who bought a Monarch pass just for the other resorts.
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Re: Almost FREE!

Postby cbrobin » Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:43 pm

Yooper and Jim, I thought I was the only person to ski at both Powderhorns. Have you?
I too had the epic pass for several years before switching to Monarch last years. I do miss Breck's Horseshoe Bowl and other runs. Last year using my Monarch Pass I skied Purgatory over Christmas and Powderhorn in March. Yesterday I skied Loveland for the first time and am planning a trip to Sunlight. The pass really is great. Plus my kids like Monarch!!
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Re: Almost FREE!

Postby GerryRigged » Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:10 pm

I pretty much have to do my skiing on weekends. A few years ago I decided that crowded resorts and bad traffic were going to be part of the game if I wanted to ski the resorts. So I changed my attitidue and figured some ways to beat the crowds. But about this time of the year when I can see back country lines developing I get the itch to go and by the end of March I mostly do back country.

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Re: Almost FREE!

Postby YooperJonKornely » Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:54 pm

Powderhorn, Indianhead, the "Porkies", Marquette Mt, Brule, Norway... They were awesome and great to learn on as a kid... All 30 seconds down and 20 minutes back up!

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Re: Almost FREE!

Postby MuchosPixels » Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:57 pm

I have been going to Colorado almost every winter for the past 20 something years.

Resort Skiing is well, Resort Skiing.

I have however noticed a huge increase in crowds over the past say 10 years on the Vail Resorts. Also, before the wide skis "phenomenon" not a lot of people ventured out to the Outer Bowls of Vail or other resorts. So one could find powder even days after a storm. Nowadays every nook and cranny and yes, even snow between trees spaced just 18" apart, are just obliterated just hours after opening on a powder day. It's crazy.

Groomed runs are always enjoyable and I just learned to accept that even on a powder day on a resort the bottom is always at play unless its VERY deep or you are on a run that was previously groomed just before the snow fell. That smooth, gliding, powder feeling so common in the backcountry is a rare thing in-bounds.

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Postby ajkagy » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:39 pm

MuchosPixels wrote:I have however noticed a huge increase in crowds over the past say 10 years on the Vail Resorts. Also, before the wide skis "phenomenon" not a lot of people ventured out to the Outer Bowls of Vail or other resorts. So one could find powder even days after a storm. Nowadays every nook and cranny and yes, even snow between trees spaced just 18" apart, are just obliterated just hours after opening on a powder day. It's crazy.


venture away from I-70 and you'll find out that powder days still mean fresh tracks days after a storm. It's kinda like the difference between going to mcdonalds and a fine dining restaurant, you'll see what you've been missing all along.

and yes, getting over 100 days on snow, being able to be on snow every single day of the week and the majority of those days being in the backcountry and touring will change your perspective about skiing forever.
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Re: Almost FREE!

Postby colorado yooper » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:32 am

YooperJonKornely wrote:Powderhorn, Indianhead, the "Porkies", Marquette Mt, Brule, Norway... They were awesome and great to learn on as a kid... All 30 seconds down and 20 minutes back up!


You can learn a lot at the Porkies....

I second the Monarch pass. We love it and if you want to combine BC and 'resort' you can ski Monarch in the AM until powder is tracked out and then go to Monarch Pass and ski powder there BC style. Plus Monarch lodge has the new HUGE family picnic area for you to eat your pasties in!
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