Bross Solution: New Summit?

[JonW]

I think this is good idea. If the purists complain about the "public" summit not being the "true" summit, then they have too much time on their hands. It's only 25 feet. Who cares?

[Gahugafuga]

I'd also be willing to fund a frisbee golf course on the public summit. I'm sure if an errant frisbee landed on the private summit, the landowner would prefer people to retrieve their discs rather than abandon them as litter.

[Upwardlybound]

Bill, I think that's reasonable. Bross is so flat (and boring...) on the summit that it really doesn't make that much difference. It would decrease the traffic across the disputed property and probably lesson issues.

[KentonB]

As I am (apparently?) one of the few left-brained purists, I'll just speak up and say it would tear at the inner-reaches of my conscious for the rest of my life knowing I was within 25 feet of the true summit and didn't make it. Then again, I've already been at the true summit, so I have no horse in this race...

[painless4u2]

Here's another idea: since the uncooperative property owner apparently claims that he needs to keep that summit private for his future mining endeavors, maybe we should just ask him to rearrange that slag heap of a mountain for us? He could drive his bulldozer up there, strip a bit of land from his side of the peak, put the material on the public side, and now we've got our publicly accessible 14'er! Climbers will rejoice at their ability to stand on the true summit, and the landowner will be happy that his property is no longer of any value to those terribly invasive trespassing hikers (who may have been damaging his minerals for all of these years).

+1

[jsdratm]

I think it is reasonable. The summit point is not very distinct and that difference in elevation is not a big deal.

[globreal]

Why don't we have a 14ers.com "Summit Rearranging Party?"

Let's go up there and build the "mother of all summit carins" at Bill's orange X. We could build it up to 14,172 like the Egyptian's built a pyramid and just "move" the true summit. (I am sure someone wouldn't mind going in under the cover of darkness and remove some rocks from the "old" summit.)

Crossfitter can carry up the keg and the hot tub party can be held here on Bross so we can soak after all of our hard work!

[bergsteigen]

Why don't we have a 14ers.com "Summit Rearranging Party?"

Let's go up there and build the "mother of all summit carins" at Bill's orange X. We could build it up to 14,172 like the Egyptian's built a pyramid and just "move" the true summit. (I am sure someone wouldn't mind going in under the cover of darkness and remove some rocks from the "old" summit.)

Crossfitter can carry up the keg and the hot tub party can be held here on Bross so we can soak after all of our hard work!

+1

Build a big enough cairn, and everyone will just gravitate towards it anyway. Only those with a GPS may know differently.

[Jim Davies]

instead of destroying the pristine wilderness that is the summit of Bross, we should have the Landowner haul up a large boulder to build up the summit on public land. If the right boulder is chosen, our brand new summit block would upgrade bross from class 1 to 5.12a, V5, A3.

Why involve the landowner? We could just chip in to hire a helicopter and move some boulders up there ourselves! Even if we can't get a single class-5 boulder up there, we could build a pile that would make that summit way more fun.

Of course, the Forest Service wouldn't approve, so this would have to be done at night. The Army could just use it as a training mission for their new helicopter brigade.

[Presto]

I'm just curious to know who the three are that voted "no" on this ...

[Jim Davies]

I'm just curious to know who the three are that voted "no" on this ...

Only one person knows, and he started the poll.

I think if a large cairn were built at that spot, containing the summit register, most people would skip the "true" summit.

[Floyd]

Can we just take rocks from South Bross and move it over to the public summit until it's higher than the current summit and we do away with South Bross? That kills 2 birds with one stone: 1) you get the public summit as the actual without involving anything on private land and 2) I don't have to go back up that pile of rubble for my unranked 14er point list.

Speaking of which... Bill if we ever meet in person, we need to have a sitdown as you're the only person that I've seen make note of that thing.

DISCLAIMER... I have no idea if South Bross is on private land and don't care to check. That could throw a big wrench in my plan.