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Re: smoke in the Sangres

Postby tdliles » Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:47 am

This NOAA Air Quality site has hourly smoke forecasts: http://airquality.weather.gov/sectors/centrockies.php. Just can't zoom in much. But with "Table MouseOver Effect On", you mouse over the hourly forecasts to see the trends. Looks like a lot of the high altitude Colorado smoke is coming from the Arizona and Southern NM fires.
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Re: smoke in the Sangres

Postby macgyver » Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:22 am

What's the range that is considered non-advisable to hike in; the orange to red area?
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Re: smoke in the Sangres

Postby jdorje » Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:23 am

tdliles wrote:This NOAA Air Quality site has hourly smoke forecasts: http://airquality.weather.gov/sectors/centrockies.php. Just can't zoom in much. But with "Table MouseOver Effect On", you mouse over the hourly forecasts to see the trends. Looks like a lot of the high altitude Colorado smoke is coming from the Arizona and Southern NM fires.


Ozone concentrations? Does that correlate to fire smoke?

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Re: smoke in the Sangres

Postby tdliles » Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:32 am

Have no idea how ozone and smoke correlate! The ozone maps didn't make much sense to me. But the two for the hourly smoke forecasts looked spot on, at least from a big high-up point of view.
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Re: smoke in the Sangres

Postby clemsonmtneer » Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:37 am

Smoke and ozone are two separate things. Smoke qualifies as fine particulate matter, so looking at just an ozone map won't help when it comes to poor air quality due to smoke. Poor air quality due to ozone usually occurs as the sun heats up the surface on hot days and there is weak mixing in the air aloft. For example, current ozone readings are in the good-to-moderate range for the Front Range, but clearly the air quality is very poor in Denver and of course Colorado Springs right now because of the smoke.

Here is a good link that provides air quality forecasts, differentiates between ozone and fine particulate matter, and provides smoke outlooks specific to each wildfire as well. Always a good resource to check before exercising outdoors.

http://www.colorado.gov/airquality/addendum.aspx#smoke


EDIT - didn't notice the smoke map in the link tdliles posted until just now... that seems pretty accurate, and is a great resource... so thanks for posting!

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Re: smoke in the Sangres

Postby jdorje » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:39 pm

clemsonmtneer wrote:EDIT - didn't notice the smoke map in the link tdliles posted until just now... that seems pretty accurate, and is a great resource... so thanks for posting!


Oh, neither did I. The link takes you to an ozone concentration map. But on the left there's a whole list of data, and by mouseover or click on the smoke categories you can see a smoke map for either surface smoke or total smoke ("vertical smoke integration"). Looks like further south things are a lot worse and the smoke is lower - particularly the Blanca group.
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Re: smoke in the Sangres

Postby jdorje » Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:12 pm

The west fork fire burned something like 4000 acres today, spreading tons of smoke, dropping visibility in Crestone to around 5 miles, then briefly turning the moon red just before a meteor flashed brightly way to the south. It was very End of Days.

I heard some rumor about a fire in the La Garita area, but I assume this is being confused with the west fork fire.

http://inciweb.org/incident/3436/
http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/fire
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Re: smoke in the Sangres

Postby susanjoypaul » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:33 am

Two more fires down south yesterday, one in Fremont County (Front Range, the "Bull Gulch Fire") near Table Mountain, and another one in the Sangres in Huerfano County, on East Spanish Peak. The smoke in Colorado Springs from all the fires was just awful last night - TV newscasters kept asking folks to please stop calling 911. It really did seem like the fires were a lot closer, due to all the smoke. Anyway, I would assume the visibility down that way, with those and the West Fork fire, is going to be pretty bad today.

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Re: smoke in the Sangres

Postby San Juan Ron » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:49 am

The smoke was bad in the eastern San Juan's (Creede, Lake City) on Wednesday morning due to the fire north of Wolf Creek /Pagosa Springs (West Fork Fire). SJ Ron

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Re: smoke in the Sangres

Postby painless4u2 » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:11 am

Here's a webcam showing the (unfortunately) growing East Peak fire:

http://www.discoverbachman.com/spanishpeaksweb.html

We own property not too far from there. This area is incredibly full of dead fall and beetle-kill trees, so when lightning strikes it just all goes up in flames. Very sad to see.
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Re: smoke in the Sangres

Postby ajkagy » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:21 am

http://www.airnow.gov/index.cfm?action=airnow.local_city&mapcenter=0&cityid=39

denver air quality pretty bad, i imagine some of it has to do with the smoke?
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Re: smoke in the Sangres

Postby Yikes » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:41 pm

really bad in Salida now. visibility probably less than a mile (can't see the other side of town) and my throat is burning. not a good day to be on Shavano (or any other peak in the area)

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