Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

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Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby Carl » Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:46 pm

matt pierce wrote:I guess some of you are hypocrites.

How many of you leave/stash your snowshoes at treeline?

Not I. Only used snowshoes on one occasion. Turned around well below treeline having learned my lesson.

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Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby speth » Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:56 pm

Jeff should be ashamed of himself - idiot, don't you know to leave stuff where you found it?










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Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby Jtjohnso24 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:21 pm

It seems pretty reasonable to either take the cache or leave it if you think it's been up there for awhile. Usually, best judgment/common sense will prevail - like it did here.

We found two backpacks on Kit Carson last year. There were about five of us that decided to search them, call in what we had found, and then leave them in the same spot. I remember thinking that maybe we should grab the packs and haul them down to the lake. It was pretty clear the people had either been blown off the mountain or had to bail down a different route. Taking the packs back to the lake would have really helped them after a scary experience, and we could have marked the spot to aid a rescue if one was necessary. Like here, the people ended up having to get down quickly and lost their gear in the process. I believe they ended up paying somebody to hike all of the way up to haul it down. It can go either way - just try to find the rightful owner (a note at the trailhead, CL, and a post on this forum is probably what I would do). If you're the owner, beer seems to be the universal thank you.

Glad to hear everything worked out and everybody lived happily ever after.

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Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby Doug Shaw » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:58 pm

matt pierce wrote:It's not the same as picking up a dropped Clif bar wrapper and bringing it down off the mountain...

Hey, that cached Clif bar wrapper was my minimalist solution to nutrition! I ate the single Clif bar over a 3-week period during an extended traverse, and licking the remaining clif-cruft stuck to the wrapper when I reached that cache was all that was standing between me and certain doom.

Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby ameristrat » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:00 pm

Jtjohnso24 wrote: If you're the owner, beer seems to be the universal thank you.

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Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby kushrocks » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:21 pm

matt pierce wrote:
1. You didnt know they had been there for a week
2. That s**t didnt belong to you - period. It's not the same as picking up a dropped Clif bar wrapper and bringing it down off the mountain...

But I'll answer your question:
Maybe the other glove was picked up by a Marmot or Pika and carried off - or hell it's Bierstadt - it probably blew away...
Maybe someone was ferrying gear up there because they got permission to build a memorial on the peak/trail...

It was someone else's GEAR - you should have left it alone - you dont know why it was there/when someone was coming back to get it etc...

Or you could have taken a pic and marked your GPS and THEN come and posted about it...

So with the decision Jeff made being proven completely accurate this entire worthless rant above is null and void and well just flat out stupid.

Ahh . . . . fells like summer is approaching doesnt it? . . . . . when all the jerks come out of no where and chase off all the polite and experienced people on here who are just trying to post helpful information. Thanks for starting this downward spiral Matt. :roll:

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Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby Bean » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:28 pm

matt pierce wrote:How many of you leave/stash your snowshoes at treeline?

To take a note from Carl, I have never left my snowshoes at treeline, not even the one time I used them. I found it hilarious when several people lost their snowshoes all on Humboldt on multiple trips a couple years ago.
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Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby Jay521 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:01 pm

matt pierce wrote:How many of you leave/stash your snowshoes at treeline?

Like Carl and Bean said - I don't ever leave my snowshoes at treeline either. For a couple reasons - first, I use the old woodies and if someone came across them, they would assume they were left there in the 1950's and would be off with them. And secondly, I don't want to be locked into going down the same way I went up.
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Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby wildlobo71 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:18 pm

awilbur77 wrote:Bill... just lock this thread already. There is no chance that any additional positive message comes from this thread. Clearly nobody is allowed to disagree with the actions taken by SurfNTurf on Bierstadt without the rest of the community bashing whomever it is.

Matt P only spoke up after the resolution from Jeff was already stated - to the grateful thanks of the Owner... He essentially set up a straw man argument - so his point here was pointless. All he had to do was save his rant for the idiots who clear the pile of trekking poles from the Democrat/Cameron saddle in the middle of the day on a warm July weekend. It is well deserved at that point.

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Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby BillMiddlebrook » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:21 pm

Yeah, I'll lock it.

It's great the guy got his gear back...


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