Forum

Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Post lost and found items here.
User avatar
Posts: 2174
Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:50 am
Location: Northwest Denver

Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby wildlobo71 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:02 am

SurfNTurf wrote:I still haven't heard a realistic, valid scenario where someone would leave a snowboard, earbuds and a single glove at 13,500' on the standard Mt. Bierstadt trail for a week -- on purpose?


Men do weird things when allured by Surfer Girl.
You've never really stopped even if you feel like you have.

User avatar
Posts: 1706
Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:44 pm

Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby Dave B » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:21 am

matt pierce wrote:Kinda reminds me of people taking quickdraws off of project routes. They are left behind for a reason...


In this instance it would be more like finding an overcammed #1 stuck in a crack. By all laws of ethics that's considered booty!

Oh, and here's a delightful discussion on the forgetting/leaving of property in the mountains.
The mountains - whose summits reach or exceed arbitrary thresholds for elevation and prominence - are calling and I must go.

-John Muir

User avatar
Posts: 2337
Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:57 am
Location: Here, Now

Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby Dex » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:27 am

matt pierce wrote:I agree with some of the posters here. Should have left the cache alone...

Just because you got lucky and found the owner doesnt mean this couldnt have turned out differently.

Kinda reminds me of people taking quickdraws off of project routes. They are left behind for a reason...


http://www.dpmclimbing.com//climbing-videos/watch/climbing-gear-thief-cauight-video
Montani Semper Liberi
"Please use the comments to demonstrate your own ignorance, unfamiliarity with empirical data and lack of respect for scientific knowledge. Be sure to create straw men and argue against things I have neither said nor implied. If you could repeat previously discredited memes or steer the conversation into irrelevant, off topic discussions, it would be appreciated. Lastly, kindly forgo all civility in your discourse . . . you are, after all, anonymous." Barry Ritholtz

User avatar
Posts: 2337
Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:57 am
Location: Here, Now

Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby Dex » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:31 am

Dave B wrote:
matt pierce wrote:Kinda reminds me of people taking quickdraws off of project routes. They are left behind for a reason...


In this instance it would be more like finding an overcammed #1 stuck in a crack. By all laws of ethics that's considered booty!

Oh, and here's a delightful discussion on the forgetting/leaving of property in the mountains.


Wasn't there a thread here awhile ago about stashing equipment. It came to the conclusion that except for technical climbs if you can't carry your equipment up and down the mountain, you shouldn't go up.

I think several people stashed their equipment on the way up but could not find it on the way down - hilarity ensued.
Montani Semper Liberi
"Please use the comments to demonstrate your own ignorance, unfamiliarity with empirical data and lack of respect for scientific knowledge. Be sure to create straw men and argue against things I have neither said nor implied. If you could repeat previously discredited memes or steer the conversation into irrelevant, off topic discussions, it would be appreciated. Lastly, kindly forgo all civility in your discourse . . . you are, after all, anonymous." Barry Ritholtz

Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby Steve Climber » Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:08 am

Dex wrote:http://www.dpmclimbing.com//climbing-videos/watch/climbing-gear-thief-cauight-video


"They are almost worn through"

"Those are my draws"

*soooo akward*
Dave B wrote:And/or line thy helmet with tin foil and realize this is a freaking mountaineering website.


Steve Climber wrote:So that's your backpack, huh?

User avatar
Posts: 528
Joined: Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:41 am
Location: Denver

Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby speth » Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:43 am

aboynamedmargrette wrote:
Dex wrote:http://www.dpmclimbing.com//climbing-videos/watch/climbing-gear-thief-cauight-video


"They are almost worn through"

"Those are my draws"

*soooo akward*


Are you taking those?

"Uh, not if you're here."
I'll be damned if I feel like I will ever know anything, but if we don't keep moving on that last hill, we'll never know what's on the other side.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
The rain and thunder, the wind and haze are bound for better days. My life, my dream. Nothin's gonna stop me now.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[-X What are you insinuating? Do you think I'm Ranger? =; Because if you do than you are dead wrong.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Sarcasm or not, it's not even funny to post something like this. Not at this time. Reported.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
rage-quit mountaineer wrote:I give up. Bill, just delete my account.

User avatar
Posts: 101
Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:59 pm
Location: Conifer, CO

Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby matt pierce » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:26 pm

I guess some of you are hypocrites.

How many of you leave/stash your snowshoes at treeline?

I can see the next thread here being from a newb: "Hey look at these cool showshoes someone abandoned at treeline on Quandary! I heard it was OK to take them - yay me!"

User avatar
Posts: 101
Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:59 pm
Location: Conifer, CO

Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby matt pierce » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:32 pm

SurfNTurf wrote:I still haven't heard a realistic, valid scenario where someone would leave a snowboard, earbuds and a single glove at 13,500' on the standard Mt. Bierstadt trail for a week


1. You didnt know they had been there for a week
2. That s**t didnt belong to you - period. It's not the same as picking up a dropped Clif bar wrapper and bringing it down off the mountain...

But I'll answer your question:
Maybe the other glove was picked up by a Marmot or Pika and carried off - or hell it's Bierstadt - it probably blew away...
Maybe someone was ferrying gear up there because they got permission to build a memorial on the peak/trail...

It was someone else's GEAR - you should have left it alone - you dont know why it was there/when someone was coming back to get it etc...

Or you could have taken a pic and marked your GPS and THEN come and posted about it...

User avatar
Posts: 359
Joined: Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:06 pm
Location: Medina, OH

Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby JTOlson26 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:43 pm

matt pierce wrote:1. You didnt know they had been there for a week
2. That s**t didnt belong to you - period. It's not the same as picking up a dropped Clif bar wrapper and bringing it down off the mountain...

But I'll answer your question:
Maybe the other glove was picked up by a Marmot or Pika and carried off - or hell it's Bierstadt - it probably blew away...
Maybe someone was ferrying gear up there because they got permission to build a memorial on the peak/trail...

It was someone else's GEAR - you should have left it alone - you dont know why it was there/when someone was coming back to get it etc...

Or you could have taken a pic and marked your GPS and THEN come and posted about it...


Based on the evidence put forth earlier it sounds like he was fairly certain it had been there a decent amount of time. Absolute certainty? Maybe not, but still fairly certain. The memorial thing, while possible, seems a bit far fetched.

Take it or leave it, literally, I don't think there is much harm done and ultimately it worked out. He made a strong effort to locate the owners and they were very grateful.

Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby ameristrat » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:55 pm

Also, the guy HAD left the stuff there because he needed to descend quickly so it WAS a good thing he brought it down to return it to the owner.

I don't see anywhere here where Jeff said he intended on keeping the stuff - not sure why we're now worried about anyone thinking it's okay to reclaim stashed snowshoes...

This thread is getting ridiculous. It was originally started to find the owner. He's been found.
You cannot stay on the summit forever; you have to come down again. So why bother in the first place? Just this: What is above knows what is below, but what is below does not know what is above. One climbs, one sees. One descends, one sees no longer, but one has seen. There is an art of conducting oneself in the lower regions by the memory of what one saw higher up. When one can no longer see, one can at least still know. - Rene Daumal

User avatar
Posts: 2174
Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:50 am
Location: Northwest Denver

Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby wildlobo71 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:00 pm

matt pierce wrote:
SurfNTurf wrote:I still haven't heard a realistic, valid scenario where someone would leave a snowboard, earbuds and a single glove at 13,500' on the standard Mt. Bierstadt trail for a week


1. You didnt know they had been there for a week
2. That s**t didnt belong to you - period. It's not the same as picking up a dropped Clif bar wrapper and bringing it down off the mountain...

But I'll answer your question:
Maybe the other glove was picked up by a Marmot or Pika and carried off - or hell it's Bierstadt - it probably blew away...
Maybe someone was ferrying gear up there because they got permission to build a memorial on the peak/trail...

It was someone else's GEAR - you should have left it alone - you dont know why it was there/when someone was coming back to get it etc...

Or you could have taken a pic and marked your GPS and THEN come and posted about it...


Jeezus - let it go, man. You may not personally approve of the actions taken but that doesn't make those actions wrong! Anyways, it's between Jeff and the property Owner - not those who have the benefit of third-party hindsight. But if you are so up for not moving it in the first place, I know where Jeff is keeping the clown board and ear buds - perhaps you should volunteer to take it back?
You've never really stopped even if you feel like you have.

User avatar
Posts: 531
Joined: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:17 am
Location: Colorado Springs

Re: Found: Odd Cache on Bierstadt

Postby dmccool » Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:37 pm

"matt pierce"

RangerGuy? Is that you?
Save a place for me up in the high country.
There's still space to breathe.

- Gregory Alan Isakov

PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests