Winter/Spring mountaineering
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Winter/Spring mountaineering
Hey everyone, I bought a few books with snow climbs/winter hikes and what I gathered is ridge hikes like Quandary and a lot of the Sawatch 14ers are good for October through December, and couloir climbs are best around May and June. Would it be a stretch to say it would be possible to do the Swatch 14ers in Fall/Winter and save the couloir climbs for May/June? I love being outdoors so much I don't want to have to wait for Summer again lol. As always, appreciate any input. Thank you!
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Re: Winter/Spring mountaineering
The Sawatch mountains are big, long slogs in the winter, but doable. You might want to start with Quandary's E. Ridge, Bierstadt, Sherman's standard snow route, etc.
Definitely don't do the couloirs in winter!! Prime avalanche terrain.
Definitely don't do the couloirs in winter!! Prime avalanche terrain.
Re: Winter/Spring mountaineering
Also keep in mind that the summer THs are often not accessible, adding many miles to some of the hikes.
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Re: Winter/Spring mountaineering
I don't mind that they are so long of hikes. I feel that the Sawatch Range would look much nicer buried under snow lol. The views must be amazing.smoove wrote:The Sawatch mountains are big, long slogs in the winter, but doable. You might want to start with Quandary's E. Ridge, Bierstadt, Sherman's standard snow route, etc.
Definitely don't do the couloirs in winter!! Prime avalanche terrain.
Will help build my endurance then! I will definitely start with easier, shorter hikes and progress to the longer more difficult ones. Just want to make sure I am not trying to do the wrong type of activity in the wrong time. Definitely want to stay away from the couloirs during times when avalanches are common.rijaca wrote:Also keep in mind that the summer THs are often not accessible, adding many miles to some of the hikes.
"Mountains are not Stadiums where I satisfy my ambition to achieve, they are the cathedrals where I practice my religion."
-Anatoli Boukreev
Be humble enough to respect the mountain, but confident enough to climb it.
Man cannot remake himself without suffering, for he is both the marble and the sculptor.
-Anatoli Boukreev
Be humble enough to respect the mountain, but confident enough to climb it.
Man cannot remake himself without suffering, for he is both the marble and the sculptor.
Re: Winter/Spring mountaineering
Best thing is that you can get that purple snowflake!
edit: Also, learn how to use the slope-angle overlay on Caltopo.com and what that means.
edit: Also, learn how to use the slope-angle overlay on Caltopo.com and what that means.
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Re: Winter/Spring mountaineering
Also, many standard routes take you across or underneath more dangerous slopes en route to the relative safety of a ridge. So some routes have variations for snowy conditions. And there are certainly times when snow conditions warrant not hiking at all.
Not to be another voice of discouragement, in general you've nailed it. There are many peaks that have great routes for winter. The views are great with snow. And the crowds are smaller or nonexistent.
...dreaming of winter
Not to be another voice of discouragement, in general you've nailed it. There are many peaks that have great routes for winter. The views are great with snow. And the crowds are smaller or nonexistent.
...dreaming of winter
Re: Winter/Spring mountaineering
+1BenfromtheEast wrote:Also, many standard routes take you across or underneath more dangerous slopes en route to the relative safety of a ridge. So some routes have variations for snowy conditions. And there are certainly times when snow conditions warrant not hiking at all.
Not to be another voice of discouragement, in general you've nailed it. There are many peaks that have great routes for winter. The views are great with snow. And the crowds are smaller or nonexistent.
...dreaming of winter
A man has got to know his limitations.-Dr. Jonathan Hemlock or Harry Callahan or something F' it: http://youtu.be/lpzqQst-Sg8
'Life is too short to ski groomers'
"That man's only desire was to stand, once only, on the summit of that glorious wedge of rock...I think anyone who loves the mountains as much as that can claim to be a mountaineer, too."-Hermann Buhl, Nanga Parbat Pilgrimage
'Life is too short to ski groomers'
"That man's only desire was to stand, once only, on the summit of that glorious wedge of rock...I think anyone who loves the mountains as much as that can claim to be a mountaineer, too."-Hermann Buhl, Nanga Parbat Pilgrimage
Re: Winter/Spring mountaineering
Most of the Sawatch 14ers are doable in winter, yep, as long as you're prepared for alternate routes and long slogs. Before venturing out you need to take a free avalanche awareness course at the very least, and a full-fledged Avy 1 course wouldn't be the worst idea. You can search all TRs for December/January/February/March and get a good overview of the most common routes.
Correct on couloirs in the spring, once the snow is consolidated. This can start as early as March in some areas, but May is a safer rule of thumb.
What books did you buy?
Correct on couloirs in the spring, once the snow is consolidated. This can start as early as March in some areas, but May is a safer rule of thumb.
What books did you buy?
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Re: Winter/Spring mountaineering
Uncompahgre is a great winter route too. Read snow sense or staying alive in avy terrain, or take a course if that's your thing.
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Re: Winter/Spring mountaineering
Thanks everyone for all your amazing advice! I'm always so happy that I get so much great input from so many people. I will check out the trip reports for Fall/Winter hikes to better prepare for not only what I'll run into, but the standard routes, as mentioned. I will be taking a few avy courses as I want to be as prepared as possible! I need to go back for Uncompahgre and it would be a wonderful hike for winter.
I bought Freedom of the Hills and Colorado Snow Climbs:A Guide for All Seasons. Great reads and the Snow Climbs book describes different routes for different seasons which really helps. Also went in quite a bit about understanding snow and the different snow qualities you can run into which I found very important. Does anyone know of any Winter/Fall 14er guide books? The Snow Climbs is mostly smaller elevation stuff although there were a couple of 14er routes.SurfNTurf wrote:Most of the Sawatch 14ers are doable in winter, yep, as long as you're prepared for alternate routes and long slogs. Before venturing out you need to take a free avalanche awareness course at the very least, and a full-fledged Avy 1 course wouldn't be the worst idea. You can search all TRs for December/January/February/March and get a good overview of the most common routes.
Correct on couloirs in the spring, once the snow is consolidated. This can start as early as March in some areas, but May is a safer rule of thumb.
What books did you buy?
"Mountains are not Stadiums where I satisfy my ambition to achieve, they are the cathedrals where I practice my religion."
-Anatoli Boukreev
Be humble enough to respect the mountain, but confident enough to climb it.
Man cannot remake himself without suffering, for he is both the marble and the sculptor.
-Anatoli Boukreev
Be humble enough to respect the mountain, but confident enough to climb it.
Man cannot remake himself without suffering, for he is both the marble and the sculptor.
Re: Winter/Spring mountaineering
Snow Sense is a small book that packs a big punch. I re-read it every fall.DoctorBreaks wrote:Thanks everyone for all your amazing advice! I'm always so happy that I get so much great input from so many people. I will check out the trip reports for Fall/Winter hikes to better prepare for not only what I'll run into, but the standard routes, as mentioned. I will be taking a few avy courses as I want to be as prepared as possible! I need to go back for Uncompahgre and it would be a wonderful hike for winter.
I bought Freedom of the Hills and Colorado Snow Climbs:A Guide for All Seasons. Great reads and the Snow Climbs book describes different routes for different seasons which really helps. Also went in quite a bit about understanding snow and the different snow qualities you can run into which I found very important. Does anyone know of any Winter/Fall 14er guide books? The Snow Climbs is mostly smaller elevation stuff although there were a couple of 14er routes.SurfNTurf wrote:Most of the Sawatch 14ers are doable in winter, yep, as long as you're prepared for alternate routes and long slogs. Before venturing out you need to take a free avalanche awareness course at the very least, and a full-fledged Avy 1 course wouldn't be the worst idea. You can search all TRs for December/January/February/March and get a good overview of the most common routes.
Correct on couloirs in the spring, once the snow is consolidated. This can start as early as March in some areas, but May is a safer rule of thumb.
What books did you buy?
“There are two kinds of climbers: those who climb because their heart sings when they’re in the mountains, and all the rest.” - Alex Lowe
"There have been joys too great to describe in words, and there have been griefs upon which I cannot dare to dwell; and with those in mind I say, 'Climb if you will, but remember that courage and strength are nought without prudence, and that a momentary negligence may destroy the happiness of a lifetime. Do nothing in haste, look well to each step, and from the beginning think what may be the end.'" - Edward Whymper
"There have been joys too great to describe in words, and there have been griefs upon which I cannot dare to dwell; and with those in mind I say, 'Climb if you will, but remember that courage and strength are nought without prudence, and that a momentary negligence may destroy the happiness of a lifetime. Do nothing in haste, look well to each step, and from the beginning think what may be the end.'" - Edward Whymper
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Re: Winter/Spring mountaineering
Nice! I'll check it out, looks really good. I do feel I things like books and Avy courses will help me greatly in staying safe in the snow.
"Mountains are not Stadiums where I satisfy my ambition to achieve, they are the cathedrals where I practice my religion."
-Anatoli Boukreev
Be humble enough to respect the mountain, but confident enough to climb it.
Man cannot remake himself without suffering, for he is both the marble and the sculptor.
-Anatoli Boukreev
Be humble enough to respect the mountain, but confident enough to climb it.
Man cannot remake himself without suffering, for he is both the marble and the sculptor.