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14ers: Pick a number, 53-60?

Postby Craig Cook » Wed May 25, 2011 7:36 pm

The list here on 14ers.com lists 58, but when I looked at the link for Gerry Roach's book 14ers book, it says "all 56". Are there two that don't technically count? If so, which two are they?

Edited to add other numbers that are popping up :shock:
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Re: 14ers: Are there 56 or 58?

Postby tmathews » Wed May 25, 2011 7:47 pm

14ers.com's list of 58 is based on the 53 Fourteeners that qualify as independent peaks under the 300-foot prominence rule plus five Fourteeners that are named by the USGS, but do not technically qualify as independent peaks (would technically be sub-peaks of the higher peaks next to it) -- North Maroon, N. Eolus, Conundrum Peak, El Diente, and Mt. Cameron. If you only consider Fourteeners as being peaks under the 300-foot topographic prominence rule, then there are 53. In many lists, North Maroon, El Diente, and Conundrum are still listed because they are prominent peaks in of of themselves, but do not technically qualify.

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Re: 14ers: Are there 56 or 58?

Postby Craig Cook » Wed May 25, 2011 8:00 pm

Awesome - thank you.

So I take it N. Eolus and Mt. Cameron are the two not included in Roach's book?
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Re: 14ers: Are there 56 or 58?

Postby JB99 » Wed May 25, 2011 8:05 pm

If you include N. Massive there are 59...

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Re: 14ers: Are there 56 or 58?

Postby BillMiddlebrook » Wed May 25, 2011 8:07 pm

Then there's "Sunlight Spire" at ~14,000' :wink:
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Re: 14ers: Are there 56 or 58?

Postby tmathews » Wed May 25, 2011 8:12 pm

Actually, in Roach's 3rd Edition, North Eolus is the only peak that's listed as "Extra Credit". The other four have their own separate sections in the guide.

Craig Cook wrote:Awesome - thank you.

So I take it N. Eolus and Mt. Cameron are the two not included in Roach's book?

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Re: 14ers: Are there 56 or 58?

Postby Craig Cook » Wed May 25, 2011 8:24 pm

Thanks again Terry.

And JB & Bill - now you guys are just trying to make this muddier in my head than it already was. :lol:
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Re: 14ers: Are there 56 or 58?

Postby Mountain Ninja » Wed May 25, 2011 8:24 pm

BillMiddlebrook wrote:Then there's "Sunlight Spire" at ~14,000' :wink:


Thank goodness this one's 5 feet shy! Or else it might be very discouraging for us non-technical climbers to complete the 14ers...


Then again, looking at the Spire in'spires' me to take climbing classes.
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Re: 14ers: Are there 56 or 58?

Postby tmathews » Wed May 25, 2011 8:27 pm

Mountain_Ninja wrote:Thank goodness this one's 5 feet shy! Or else it might be very discouraging for us non-technical climbers to complete the 14ers...

Then again, looking at the Spire in'spires' me to take climbing classes.


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Re: 14ers: Are there 56 or 58?

Postby rijaca » Wed May 25, 2011 8:28 pm

Then again, the CMC, the state of CO, and the USGS "official' list includes only 54 14ers.
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Re: 14ers: Are there 56 or 58?

Postby BillMiddlebrook » Wed May 25, 2011 8:34 pm

rijaca wrote:Then again, the CMC, the state of CO, and the USGS "official' list includes only 54 14ers.

Well, they better get with the times. And the data. :D
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Re: 14ers: Are there 56 or 58?

Postby JB99 » Wed May 25, 2011 8:35 pm

Mountain_Ninja wrote:Thank goodness this one's 5 feet shy! Or else it might be very discouraging for us non-technical climbers to complete the 14ers...


Actually it has been reassessed and is listed as 14,000 even now if I'm not mistaken. Personally I think it's clearly not it's own mountain no matter if it's over or under 14k so it stays off my list...
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