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Nanga Parbat Climbers Killed by Taliban

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Re: Nanga Parbat Climbers Killed by Taliban

Postby jomagam » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:33 pm

Scott P wrote:More Muslims live in the forest of Southeast Asia than anywhere else, not in the desert. That was the point. Obviously they don't all look alike, but they are certainly more likely to look like the above than an Arab riding a camel (which is how they are often portrayed as in the West). Obviously you missed the point.


Those are still a laughably bad stereotypes. 60% of Muslims do live in SE Asia and only 15% of Muslims are Arabs, but they mostly live in cities or villages. Ever been to Jakarta ?

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Re: Nanga Parbat Climbers Killed by Taliban

Postby Gabriel » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:12 pm

Hacksaw wrote:There are better places in the world to go climbing then over there.

There are not better paces to go climbing. The Karakoram in Pakistan is tops.

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Re: Nanga Parbat Climbers Killed by Taliban

Postby Somewhat of a Prick » Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:45 pm

Gabriel wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:There are better places in the world to go climbing then over there.

There are not better paces to go climbing. The Karakoram in Pakistan is tops.

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Maybe he meant better as in safer? *shrug*

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Re: Nanga Parbat Climbers Killed by Taliban

Postby Scott P » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:19 pm

Ever been to Jakarta ?


Yes. The photo of the swingset is from a palm oil plantation just west of Jakarta. The last photo with the elephant was also taken in a village (Sumatra). I took those photographs.

but they mostly live in cities or villages.


Indonesia, where Jakarta is located has about half the population rural and half urban. It has the largest islamic population in the word.

2nd largest Islamic population by country is Pakistan which is about 2/3 rural by population.

Next largest is India which is about 3/4 rural.

Next largest is Bangledesh which is also around 3/4 rural by population.

Although many Muslims live in places like Jakarta, far more Muslims in Southeast Asia live in rural areas than urban areas such as Jakarta (Kuala Lumpur, Medan, Dhaka, etc.).

To turn the question around, have you ever been to the rural areas of Indonesia or only Jakarta? Or have you even been there at all? Most of them live in rural areas.

PS, you are missing the whole point. The point was that most of them live outside the Middle East where most of the violence takes place. Most of them live in Southeast Asia and have never see a camel.

(I also have plenty of photos of Kuala Lumpur, Jakarta, and Medan as well, but didn't have them on hand and pulled these off my FB account).

Maybe he meant better as in safer?


The mountain they were climbing has a death rate of 22.3%. I would bet the chances of the mountain killing are greater than that of a person killing you on Nanga Parbat. Of course I'd much rather be killed by the mountain though.

I would like to go to the Karakorum some day, but not now.
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Re: Nanga Parbat Climbers Killed by Taliban

Postby rmd » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:51 pm

lordhelmut wrote:Anyone have a WSJ online login?

edit - huffington post, but its free - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/23/pakistan-gunmen-climbers_n_3484986.html

This is why climbing in the states is so much more fun...

edit again - "in retaliation for US drone attacks" - yet none of the climbers killed were Americans. Assclowns.


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Re: Nanga Parbat Climbers Killed by Taliban

Postby I Man » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:56 pm

Gabriel wrote:
Hacksaw wrote:There are better places in the world to go climbing then over there.

There are not better paces to go climbing. The Karakoram in Pakistan is tops.


The mountains that interest me most in the world are in the Karokoram and i imagine this incident won't deter that interest....for now.
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Re: Nanga Parbat Climbers Killed by Taliban

Postby 14RBND » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:06 pm

The following link pretty much sums up the problems with the radical groups that hate you and I and will kill you in their quest to bring their religious beliefs to world dominance.. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/target/etc/modern.html #-o

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