Best time for Great Basin NP
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Best time for Great Basin NP
I'm thinking of heading down to Great Basin National Park to climb Wheeler Peak and potentially Notch Peak (UT) sometime this spring or summer. Any suggestions on when would be the best time for the trip? Notch is supposed to be rather uncomfortable to do in the summer due to the heat but I'm not sure I would want to do Wheeler too early since its higher and is likely to hold snow later. I have an ice axe and would be comfortable crossing the occasional snowfield but I don't really want to do the entire thing as a snow hike or have to worry about avalanches. I suppose if the drought in the Southwest way continues for much longer this winter then snow might be a non-issue but I'd appreciate feedback in any case.
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Re: Best time for Great Basin NP
Usually the road isn't open to the Wheeler Trailhead until Memorial Day weekend. It is sometimes later than that in heavy snow years. Earlier than that, you can still climb the mountain, but you have to start on the Leman Creek Trail.
Late September might be good as most of the time (not always!) the snow will be gone from Wheeler and Notch Peak will not be so hot.
June would be good for either, but there will be snow on Wheeler. Bring an ice axe. Normally, the standard Wheeler route shouldn't have avalanche danger in June, but you should get a very early start and climb when the snow is firm.
Late September might be good as most of the time (not always!) the snow will be gone from Wheeler and Notch Peak will not be so hot.
June would be good for either, but there will be snow on Wheeler. Bring an ice axe. Normally, the standard Wheeler route shouldn't have avalanche danger in June, but you should get a very early start and climb when the snow is firm.
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Re: Best time for Great Basin NP
We did Wheeler the last week of August (2012) the last of a peak bagging trip through UT, CA and NV. We had great weather but had to be wary of T-Storms as they were a constant factor in the afternoon. We planned on being down by noon. Heat was not an issue due to altitude. Moving into September would probably make weather timing easier.
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Re: Best time for Great Basin NP
Good advice from Scott. I would just add that it somewhat depends on the year. In 2008 for instance, during my first trip to Great Basin in the third week of June there was hardly any snow on Wheeler, but on my second trip through the area in 2011, in late July there was quite a bit of snow on all the peaks we summited. So find out the snow conditions out there when making a decision on when to go.Scott P wrote:Usually the road isn't open to the Wheeler Trailhead until Memorial Day weekend. It is sometimes later than that in heavy snow years. Earlier than that, you can still climb the mountain, but you have to start on the Leman Creek Trail.
Late September might be good as most of the time (not always!) the snow will be gone from Wheeler and Notch Peak will not be so hot.
June would be good for either, but there will be snow on Wheeler. Bring an ice axe. Normally, the standard Wheeler route shouldn't have avalanche danger in June, but you should get a very early start and climb when the snow is firm.
As far as Notch is concerned, I don't remember it being too terribly hot when I climbed it in late July. Of course I also climbed all over in the White Mountains and spent time in 100+ degree heat in Lone Pine on my way to the Sierras during that trip so my memory may be altered.
BTW - If you plan on camping in any of the campgrounds in Great Basin you will want to get reservations a couple months in advance. The first time I was there we got lucky and found an unreserved spot, but the second time, we ended up camping out down in Baker and had to get up really early and drive to the trailheads on summit days.
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Re: Best time for Great Basin NP
Underrated National Park; let's hope it says that way because it's secluded nature is one of its highlights. As for the road being open, in the summer of 2012 the road was open all the way in July.
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Re: Best time for Great Basin NP
I'm biased because I did both in the fall so I'd say that'd be the ideal season. But if Spring or Summer are your options I'd say summer. Like others have said they don't open the road up Wheeler until early summer or so. The standard Sawtooth Canyon route for Notch is actually shaded for a good portion of it, so if you start early during the early summer (sunrise start) it shouldn't be too bad.
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Re: Best time for Great Basin NP
I too have been thinking of a trip to Great Basin Park. If you end up going in fall I would be interested in joining you?
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Re: Best time for Great Basin NP
Thanks for the replies. I was also considering doing the trip in the fall; the main reason that I was considering the spring or early summer was that I live in Salt Lake and I was thinking this trip might start to melt out while I'm still waiting on the Wasatch and Uintas. Sounds like Wheeler holds snow for a similar length of time though.
Thanks for the camping advice kaiman, that's good to know about the reservations. Another question, are there water sources along either the Wheeler Peak or Notch Peak routes?
Thanks for the camping advice kaiman, that's good to know about the reservations. Another question, are there water sources along either the Wheeler Peak or Notch Peak routes?
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Except for the first mile of the Wheeler Peak trail, there won't be any water except for possible snow. Notch Peak has no water after the snow melts.Another question, are there water sources along either the Wheeler Peak or Notch Peak routes?
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Re: Best time for Great Basin NP
We went in mid May a few years back and it was a perfect time, with some lingering snow and mild temps.