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Northern New Mexico conditions?

Postby TravelingMatt » Mon May 13, 2013 10:00 am

Any recent reports from Northern New Mexico? They had very low precip totals this winter and I'm wondering how close it is to summer conditions. Might go down there this weekend. Specifically looking at more prominent 11ers such as Taylor and Chicoma. Probably not doing anything in the Pecos unless it's dry there.
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Re: Northern New Mexico conditions?

Postby ChrisinAZ » Mon May 13, 2013 10:12 am

If you go, I'd definitely appreciate any beta you have--may be heading to the Truchas Peaks in a few weeks.

As for snow depth, I've generally used http://www.nohrsc.nws.gov/interactive/html/map.html which isn't perfect, but is a good general indicator. If you want to center in on specific peaks, you can go onto listsofjohn and click the "snow depth" link on a given peak's page. According to the site, at least parts of the Pecos (including Truchas) are pretty close to dry, but I'm still planning to contact the NF to get more accurate conditions...
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Re: Northern New Mexico conditions?

Postby davebobk47 » Mon May 13, 2013 10:14 am

I did Taylor 2 weekends ago and it was 100% dry. A few patches under the trees in places but nothing on the trail. I was able to see Chicoma's face and it was snow free but I'm not sure what condition it will be under the trees and on the road. Guessing it will be fairly dry but not sure.
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Re: Northern New Mexico conditions?

Postby TravelingMatt » Mon May 13, 2013 11:19 am

Sounds like a go then! I'll report back. Until then, any more info is helpful. Might consider a Pecos 12er if it's dry.
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Re: Northern New Mexico conditions?

Postby abqben56 » Mon May 13, 2013 11:38 am

It's been extremely dry here but the highest Sangres weren't as badly affected as the lowlands. The Santa Fe snotel reports 17 inches, Taos Powderhorn 41, so north-facing slopes in the Sangres will still be covered in places, at least in the forest. You can get a pretty good idea from the Taos and Santa Fe ski area webcams.

Chicoma is probably clear or close to it; I didn't see any snow cover on the Jemez from Santa Fe last weekend.

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Re: Northern New Mexico conditions?

Postby TravelingMatt » Mon May 13, 2013 12:05 pm

abqben56 wrote:You can get a pretty good idea from the Taos and Santa Fe ski area webcams.


http://skitaos.org/webcams

I do look at those but I'm not sure what or which direction I'm looking at, and at least one of the controllable cams seems out of whack.
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Re: Northern New Mexico conditions?

Postby abqben56 » Mon May 13, 2013 12:41 pm

TravelingMatt wrote:
I do look at those but I'm not sure what or which direction I'm looking at, and at least one of the controllable cams seems out of whack.


It sure is. The highline ridge view looks to be rotated to the left from where it should be. You can still get an idea of what's on the ground around 12K on more or less north facing slopes.

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Re: Northern New Mexico conditions?

Postby desertdog » Mon May 13, 2013 7:48 pm

I live in Santa Fe and as a matter a fact we did Gold Hill (12,700) near Wheeler peak today. Not summer conditions yet. There was hard pack snow in the trees and we post holed quite a bit. Would have liked snow shoes in the afternoon. Easily avoidable snow above tree line on all the peaks we could see from gold hill's summit. The standard route up Wheeler will be boot packed snow with little snow on the ridge.

The peaks around ABQ are mostly snow free.

I am doing Pecos Baldy this coming Saturday and expect similard conditions to gold hill with a bit less snow.

I would expect the approaches to the Truchas still to have snow.

Its going to warm this week so I think the melt will be fast with most snow gone by around 6/15.

If you have specific peaks in mind let me know.

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Re: Northern New Mexico conditions?

Postby Matt » Mon May 13, 2013 9:03 pm

desertdog wrote:I am doing Pecos Baldy this coming Saturday and expect similard conditions to gold hill with a bit less snow.
I would expect the approaches to the Truchas still to have snow.
Its going to warm this week so I think the melt will be fast with most snow gone by around 6/15.
If you have specific peaks in mind let me know.


Please report back after doing Pecos Baldy (don't forget East, it's ranked). Our plan is to start in Cowles for a Truchas hike, so you'd be covering much of our approach.
As Chris mentioned, the map used on LoJ indicates much less snow around there than in the Wheeler/Gold Hill area. Let's hope so...
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Re: Northern New Mexico conditions?

Postby desertdog » Tue May 14, 2013 6:12 am

Matt wrote:
desertdog wrote:I am doing Pecos Baldy this coming Saturday and expect similard conditions to gold hill with a bit less snow.
I would expect the approaches to the Truchas still to have snow.
Its going to warm this week so I think the melt will be fast with most snow gone by around 6/15.
If you have specific peaks in mind let me know.


Please report back after doing Pecos Baldy (don't forget East, it's ranked). Our plan is to start in Cowles for a Truchas hike, so you'd be covering much of our approach.
As Chris mentioned, the map used on LoJ indicates much less snow around there than in the Wheeler/Gold Hill area. Let's hope so...
Thank you.


I'll be glad to report back. I've done the Pecos Baldy(s) and your Truchas route many times. Nice area. A friend of mine is doing the Truchas route as a day hike on the 5/25. I try to get some beta for you.

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Re: Northern New Mexico conditions?

Postby Monster5 » Tue May 14, 2013 12:41 pm

Do you know if vandalism is still a problem at the Quemado trailhead? Or is the whole thing exaggerated?

A NM climber told me to leave my vehicle unlocked with a case of beer in the front seat - seems like that could backfire.

desertdog wrote:I'll be glad to report back. I've done the Pecos Baldy(s) and your Truchas route many times. Nice area. A friend of mine is doing the Truchas route as a day hike on the 5/25. I try to get some beta for you.
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Re: Northern New Mexico conditions?

Postby desertdog » Tue May 14, 2013 1:06 pm

Monster5 wrote:Do you know if vandalism is still a problem at the Quemado trailhead? Or is the whole thing exaggerated?

A NM climber told me to leave my vehicle unlocked with a case of beer in the front seat - seems like that could backfire.

desertdog wrote:I'll be glad to report back. I've done the Pecos Baldy(s) and your Truchas route many times. Nice area. A friend of mine is doing the Truchas route as a day hike on the 5/25. I try to get some beta for you.



Maybe just a six pack! I've heard about it for years and don't think it's exaggerated. I would not leave my car at that TH. We once took a friend of mine's clunker up there and no one touched it.

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