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Re: Route Finding Exercises

Postby Tornadoman » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:48 am

Jim Davies wrote:I guess I don't have the fine motor skills or eye-hand coordination required for safe winter travel. #-o

Same here. I knew where I wanted to go on route #2 and couldn't make it work! LOL!

Now, I know nothing about snow travel, but route 4 looked like a good time to just stay in the first hut and drink.

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Re: Route Finding Exercises

Postby JROSKA » Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:09 pm

Very interesting. I had no idea how to pull off #2, but made the top of #1 and #3, and almost made #4. That said, and I'm probably stating the obvious here, but I suppose that winter-route finding, when actually on the mountain, is an entirely different ball-game than looking at a slope from a birds-eye perspective.

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Re: Route Finding Exercises

Postby ameristrat » Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:57 pm

rickinco123 wrote:Honestly, I don't see anything safe for me in picture 2 at my risk tolerance level. Unless the reports showed a very stable snow pack. The path I ended up successfully drawing seems very sketchy. I also don't feel there is enough information about the slope angle, even the shading in the photos is hard for me to discern slopes. They also cropped some potentially key feature on the right side of the photo.

Still kind of cool.

Agreed. I thought that the ridge around from the right looked like it could be safest, but it's hard to to tell when you can't see it!
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Re: Route Finding Exercises

Postby MonGoose » Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:56 pm

This is the actual route I took.
The Safest Route
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I like the concept, although I think it would be a lot better with higher resolution photographs. They could also do the same exercise with a topographic map as a trip planning exercise.

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Re: Route Finding Exercises

Postby cheeseburglar » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:55 pm

Fun webpage!
I wouldn't take my kids in their idea of safe zones, but I might go with my ski partners.
Their red zones seem too small, but knowing nothing about the conditions that day it's hard to tell.
Seems like think they don't account for runout zones from remote triggers very well.
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Re: Route Finding Exercises

Postby uwe » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:05 am

Thanks for the link!
Will show this to the CMC AIARE 1 classes this coming year.
This is what they really hammer on in AIARE 2, and some in AIARE 1.

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Re: Route Finding Exercises

Postby SilverLynx » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:26 pm

MonGoose wrote:This is the actual route I took.

I like the concept, although I think it would be a lot better with higher resolution photographs. They could also do the same exercise with a topographic map as a trip planning exercise.

LOL! Did you do that with your jet pack?! :-D
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Re: Route Finding Exercises

Postby geojed » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:25 pm

This is the route I chose...
The MOST Safest Route.jpg
Safest of the Safest Routes...
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