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Bringing Ravens Defense to Denver Late...(altitude)

Postby TehWoopig » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:46 pm

What do you guys think? I think the "evidence" presented in the article lack substance. If I'm not mistaking, there are a lot of people that come from lower elevations to hike 14ers as soon as they get there to alleviate altitude issues. I'm in Texas (home is at 33 feet no less) and the last time I was there, I went on several hikes to about 12k feet around Massive and Elbert with little issues. Several days later, I really struggled with the standard Elbert route. O2 saturation was down to 80% after hiking uphill for a few minutes. It seems like you'll do better right off for the first 24 to maybe 36 hours and then it starts to affect you quite a bit. After that, it is probably best to wait 3 weeks minimum. That's what I've gathered from my own personal experience anyways. Just wanted to see what everyone else though.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2013/01/09/john-harbaugh-bringing-ravens-denver-late-big-mistake/18051/

Re: Bringing Ravens Defense to Denver Late...(altitude)

Postby lordhelmut » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:51 pm

Doesn't matter what the D does. Flacco is "elite", remember? Ray Lewis will be that much closer to god and lead the Ravens to victory (and if he doesn't, he's got a lucrative job post-football, god's will of course).

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Re: Bringing Ravens Defense to Denver Late...(altitude)

Postby crossfitter » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:03 pm

Altitude sickness isn't the real concern like it is in mountaineering. For football it's being able to maintain the same speed and high level of play for the entire game. Opposing teams bring oxygen for a reason; you'll get a couple shots per game of visiting opponents sucking on a mask on the sidelines. Well conditioned athletes certainly can recover, but combining altitude with Manning's no-huddle offense doesn't give opponents a chance to recover like normal and wears on them.

But even without the altitude advantage, the Broncos have the Ravens covered. They dominated the Ravens on the road, and the Ravens are by far the weakest remaining AFC team on both offense and defense http://wp.advancednflstats.com/teamstatvisualization.php.
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Re: Bringing Ravens Defense to Denver Late...(altitude)

Postby RoanMtnMan » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:05 pm

I'm still upset that the Broncos got rid of Tim Tebow for that crappy Manning guy. Oh wait, I went to the University of Tennessee at the same time as Manning, and I can't help but say "I told you so". I sure wouldn't want to be a purple faced defender when Peyton is running that no huddle offense. Makes me tired just thinking about it and I live at 9k.

Even in the first 24-36 hours it has an effect. Though maybe not always as apparent as after that period. I regularly trail run the same trails and know my times well. If I go back to TN to visit family or head to beach land for a few weeks of surfing, my times on the same trails dramatically increase for the first 2-3 weeks of my return. Everyone's body deals with altitude differently though. I do suspect it is a disadvantage for the Ravens. Which is fine because Peyton needs another Super Bowl ring and MVP. Sorry, I am biased.
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Postby lordhelmut » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:16 pm

Altitude aside, Ravens have been to playoffs last 5 years and AFC Championship 3 of 5 years. New York Giants have proven regular season stats mean absolutely nothing.

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Re: Bringing Ravens Defense to Denver Late...(altitude)

Postby jdorje » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:20 pm

In the postseason, quarterback eliteness means everything. And Flacco is elite.

I'm calling it now: Ravens win in double overtime.

Edit: I agree with the OP that the article's evidence is bogus. The Ravens have the choice of flying in 24 hours before the game, or flying in 48-96 hours before the game. The MMA fighters described were flying in either 24 hours in advance, or training weeks in advance at altitude. It's not a relevant comparison.

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Re: Bringing Ravens Defense to Denver Late...(altitude)

Postby I fall a lot » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:27 pm

Go Ravens!

if not

Go Pats!

Go anybody! but the Broncos. The only good thing about them being so good this year are all the tattoos that people are getting.
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Postby RoanMtnMan » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:40 pm

Yikes. There should be a psychiatric evaluation required before you can get a tattoo.
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Re: Bringing Ravens Defense to Denver Late...(altitude)

Postby griddles » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:47 pm

The best advise for playing sports at high altitude comes from South American futbal. They play in even higher altitude than Denver all the time. This doc seemed to think viagra is the solution.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8005391.stm

Re: Bringing Ravens Defense to Denver Late...(altitude)

Postby lordhelmut » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:48 pm

http://kdvr.com/2013/01/04/broncos-fans-willing-to-trade-for-tickets-to-playoff-games/

Tattoos for Tickets. I hear people are offering their condos for tickets. The NFL is everything that is right and everything that is wrong with America.

Re: Bringing Ravens Defense to Denver Late...(altitude)

Postby MonGoose » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:49 pm

I'm going to the game on Saturday, anyone else plan on attending?

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Re: Bringing Ravens Defense to Denver Late...(altitude)

Postby Papillon » Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:16 pm

griddles wrote:The best advise for playing sports at high altitude comes from South American futbal. They play in even higher altitude than Denver all the time. This doc seemed to think viagra is the solution.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8005391.stm


A couple of years ago FIFA banned World Cup qualifiers above a certain elevation (I think the cut off is around 8,000 feet). Estadio Azteca is at 7,300 feet. There is a stadium in Bolivia at 13K. Broncos fans are delusional and will probably try to tell you that they play in the highest stadium in the world. Typical.

My dog is not in the Broncos-Ravens fight but the thought of seeing a lot of long faces at work on Monday morning (some bordering on total devastation) after a Broncos loss has me absolutely giddy right now.

But I don't see it happening. I don't think they can be stopped.
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