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Re: Where is the SNOW!!!

Postby ajkagy » Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:08 pm

the pow was good this morning...hopefully we have many more days like that this december.
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Re: Where is the SNOW!!!

Postby PaliKona » Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:42 pm

Looking very cold tonight through Tues night...-33 wind chill on Vail Pass! Is that cold enough to kill some of those f'ing pine beetles?

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Re: Where is the SNOW!!!

Postby ajkagy » Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:49 pm

PaliKona wrote:Looking very cold tonight through Tues night...-33 wind chill on Vail Pass! Is that cold enough to kill some of those f'ing pine beetles?


-11 for the low here tonight, unfortunately we'd need several nights of -40 temps to kill off a lot of beetle.
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Re: Where is the SNOW!!!

Postby RoanMtnMan » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:49 pm

Unfortunately, negative temps with such a thin snowpack = bad news for stability later this year. At least it snowed though. Skiing low angle is better than not skiing at all.
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Re: Where is the SNOW!!!

Postby Snowgirl » Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:36 am

ajkagy wrote:
PaliKona wrote:Looking very cold tonight through Tues night...-33 wind chill on Vail Pass! Is that cold enough to kill some of those f'ing pine beetles?


-11 for the low here tonight, unfortunately we'd need several nights of -40 temps to kill off a lot of beetle.


I'm not a pine beetle expert by any stretch, but I think you mean -40 Celsius, instead of Fahrenheit?

Fingers crossed for a cold(ish) winter/spring to get the population in check.

Edit: Fun fact, -40*F and -40*C are the same thing. Mind blown! I guess -30 to -40*C, and -30*F, for more than five days, are the ticket. Huh.
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Re: Where is the SNOW!!!

Postby ajkagy » Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:21 am

Snowgirl wrote:
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PaliKona wrote:Looking very cold tonight through Tues night...-33 wind chill on Vail Pass! Is that cold enough to kill some of those f'ing pine beetles?


-11 for the low here tonight, unfortunately we'd need several nights of -40 temps to kill off a lot of beetle.


I'm not a pine beetle expert by any stretch, but I think you mean -40 Celsius, instead of Fahrenheit?

Fingers crossed for a cold(ish) winter/spring to get the population in check.

Edit: Fun fact, -40*F and -40*C are the same thing. Mind blown! I guess -30 to -40*C, and -30*F, for more than five days, are the ticket. Huh.


yes, extremely cold weather in mid winter because the beetle metabolizes glycerol which acts as an anti freeze. It's better to have a cold spell that isn't as cold as -40 in spring or fall and that will kill them as well since they'll have less glycerol in their system.

fortunately they are pretty much non-existent down here in this part of the elks, but I imagine they mostly like lodgepoles which aren't as prevalent as they are in summit/grand counties.
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Re: Where is the SNOW!!!

Postby ajkagy » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:10 am

snowing pretty good this morning, supposed to get another 3-6 here. Looking like winter now :)
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Re: Where is the SNOW!!!

Postby mtngoat » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:24 am

Anyone have a read on Chicago Ridge near Tennessee Pass?
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Re: Where is the SNOW!!!

Postby Mark A Steiner » Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:20 pm

Others on another thread are "dreamin of summer". Maybe here some can offer some fresh thoughts about snowpack conditions. Recent trip reports and photo image attachments in other threads do not appear encouraging.

Maybe the snow is whiter where you are.
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Re: Where is the SNOW!!!

Postby Bean » Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:32 pm

Mark A Steiner wrote:Others on another thread are "dreamin of summer". Maybe here some can offer some fresh thoughts about snowpack conditions. Recent trip reports and photo image attachments in other threads do not appear encouraging.

Maybe the snow is whiter where you are.

Snowpack conditions are horrible.

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Re: Where is the SNOW!!!

Postby RoanMtnMan » Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:38 pm

You don't need a graph to tell you that Bean. Some petrol and a quick skin should have you planning trips NW of CO. Sadly, that seems to be the proper course again this year.
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Re: Where is the SNOW!!!

Postby Bean » Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:56 pm

Just pointing out that we're somehow even worse off than last year.

I was heading to Jackson for a week but that plan seems to have been wrecked, and I haven't got a lot of time for other trips this year. If things don't change I'll end up with two seasons combined with less than half the days of the season before. :x
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