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Is it ok to "poach" a trench?

It's my trench and I put all the hard work into. Stay out of it.
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3%
Poaching a trench is good strategy. Less work for me.
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9%
Quid pro quo.
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10%
Who cares?
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It was "there" when I showed up. Give me a break.
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This was a problem?
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21%
 
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Re: Poaching Trenches

Postby DeucesWild » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:53 am

Don't laugh; I hike with my cat. On leash of course. He doesn't bark, chase wildlife, slobber on people he doesn't know, and most importantly he doesn't knock rocks down on other climbers.

Here's a pic of him fording Capitol Creek on a recon of the standard route. He doesn't like exposure so I'm breaking him in slow. Maybe next summer we'll give it a go.

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Re: Poaching Trenches

Postby piper14er » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:03 am

Furthermore let me know the next time you are going and where, so I can poach your trench. \:D/

[b]Seriously never thought about it before.[/b] I hike a lot solo have put in many of my own trenches and posted timely reports for people to use. Happy poaching... :lol:

I generally look at the weather to go or not to go for peaks. I will go in bad weather and with no trench too. I will use a trench if it is there. I will use maps, Bill's website, books (Martin, Garratt, Roach) and other peoples trip reports, otherwise why post them (well, for the glory I guess too) or print them.

I know that more popular peaks (14ers and some others) will more likely as not have a packed trail. e.g. Huron a few weeks ago (and I posted a report that thanked those packing the trail). Some days I only have a certain amount of time or need a break from slogging so I will take these trails.

"To poach, or not to poach, that is the question:
Whether 'tis Nobler in the mind to suffer
The Slings and Arrows of outrageous(ly) deep snow,
Or to take Arms against a Sea of sugar snow,
And by opposing end them: to die, to slog
No more; and by a sleep, to say we end
The heart-ache, and the thousand Natural shocks
That Flesh is heir to? 'Tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished. To die to slog,
To slog, perchance to poach; Ay, there's the rub"

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Re: Poaching Trenches

Postby highpilgrim » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:06 am

'Tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished. To die to slog,
To slog, perchance to poach; Ay, there's the rub"


Are you implying that the Bard was a trench poacher? :wink:
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Re: Poaching Trenches

Postby randalmartin » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:33 am

d_baker wrote:Peace.


Really? After reading your posts on this topic you clearly are not about peace. Quite the opposite.

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Re: Poaching Trenches

Postby nkan02 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:40 am

highpilgrim wrote:
'Tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished. To die to slog,
To slog, perchance to poach; Ay, there's the rub"


Are you implying that the Bard was a trench poacher? :wink:

No, he obviously blazed his own path. :P

piper14er wrote:"To poach, or not to poach, that is the question:
Whether 'tis Nobler in the mind to suffer
The Slings and Arrows of outrageous(ly) deep snow,
Or to take Arms against a Sea of sugar snow,
And by opposing end them: to die, to slog
No more; and by a sleep, to say we end
The heart-ache, and the thousand Natural shocks
That Flesh is heir to? 'Tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished. To die to slog,
To slog, perchance to poach; Ay, there's the rub"

=D>
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Re: Poaching Trenches

Postby MountainHiker » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:50 am

The Bard obviously understood poaching.

Why poach Bard Peak? Because it be! :lol:
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Re: Poaching Trenches

Postby highpilgrim » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:53 am

nkan02 wrote:No, he obviously blazed his own path.


Roland Emmerich would apparently disagree... :roll:
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Re: Poaching Trenches

Postby piper14er » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:15 am

certainly not but I have hiked the Bard('s) Peak and did not poach a trench

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Re: Poaching Trenches

Postby muzik83 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:33 am

The 14er standard routes are not going to make anyone famous; who cares.

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Re: Poaching Trenches

Postby JeffR » Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:21 pm

I have no qualms poaching a ski track when snowshoeing. :-$

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Re: Poaching Trenches

Postby d_baker » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:15 pm

randalmartin wrote:
d_baker wrote:Peace.


Really? After reading your posts on this topic you clearly are not about peace. Quite the opposite.

:lol:
Whatever Randal. I would actually start a war, ok not a war, but a fight over someone using a trench I helped build. No, I would not.
Mostly I don't give a sh*t.

I was owning up to being someone that has made comments about poaching. Most times it is in jest.
Poach. Poaching. Trench Poacher. All fun words to say!

There's one person that has rubbed me the wrong way with their ethics and character, and why that should bother me, I don't know. But, because of this thread, I will try in the future not to give a sh*t what that person does, or what you do, or what anyone does when it comes to each person's style & ethics.

Once again I should have used pink font colour on some of my comments, I guess I confused some people. But then again, I'm an angry individual.

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Re: Poaching Trenches

Postby Jesse M » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:45 pm

Google, Poaching Trenches; this thread comes up second.

I hear...

"crab people"
"crab people"
"trench poachers"
"trench poachers"

...when I read this thread

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