Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby Presto » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:31 am

kimo » Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:01 pm

...and remember kids, only you can prevent narcissism.

Here then, maybe this will help.

Interesting quiz, kimo ... I'd be curious to know how others scored (mine was a 7).
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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby SeracZack » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:36 am

People that just drive in the left lane with no one in the right lane. "Keep right, except to pass" - Super annoying to me.
People cutting switchbacks on the trail.
People that expect me to drop everything and work on their problem. As if I wasn't already doing something.
Cyclists that do not ride single file on a narrow two lane road. I know you want to converse with your buddy, but riding single file will keep me from clipping you with my side mirror.
My "office" (glorified shed that is usually 55 degrees in the morning when I get there.

I scored a 7 on the narc quiz. Interesting, thought I would have been way worse.
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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby Jim Davies » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:38 am

Yeesh, I got a 5. I wonder how low scores on this correlates with solo hiking.
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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby Jon Frohlich » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:51 am

Jim Davies wrote:Yeesh, I got a 5. I wonder how low scores on this correlates with solo hiking.

Don't know but I scored a 4 and I hike either solo or in small groups (2-4) most of the time. And I rarely write trip reports.

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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby Dave B » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:55 am

I'm a 13, which means I'm an average non-narcissistic.

I can't wait to show my wife that so she has to recognize that it was me who was right all along! :-"
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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby planet54 » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:01 am

I scored a 9,usually hike solo and most of the time I am an off the scale introvert. Add that to the mix.
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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby madbuck » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:03 am

BillMiddlebrook wrote:I think most bike/car incidents are caused by bikers wearing spandex. There has to be a better clothing option. :-k

I can't speak for motorcycle drivers (bikers) wearing spandex, but while I've commuted plenty in jeans, wearing spandex for 60 or 100 or 150 miles, and especially down long 40-50mph hills, is much more of a functional, practical choice than the oft-debated clothing ("gear") debates here.

So how about riding up/down Mt. Evans in spandex, and then loose floppy clothing, and posting a report? :D

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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby kimo » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:06 am

All, thanks for sharing your results. I scored a 10. (For those who haven't taken the quiz to see the results, a score of 12-15 is considered average, celebrities tend to score closer to 18, and narcissists score 20+) My self-suffiency score was 5, "suggesting you are highly self-sufficient" - that may correlate with my enjoyment of solo hiking. My desire for vanity, authority, and to generally screw people over ranged from 0 to 1. Superiority a 2 (and I'm not proud of that). And though I enjoy posting TRs, my exhibitionism score (the need to be center of attention, and willingness to ensure it) was 0.

MntOwl wrote:Is being narcissistic a bad thing? :?:

There are good narcissists and bad narcissists. And the bad tend to be really bad: Hitler, Himmler, Stalin, Hussein, Kadafi, Vlad the Impaler...the History Channel is filled with stories of them.

Regardless of the results of the quiz, the true clinical diagnosis of narcissism is provided by the American Psychiatric Association, who say, "a patient must exhibit five or more of the following traits in order to be diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder:

- grandiose sense of self-importance
- preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
- belief that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
- need for excessive admiration
- sense of entitlement
- takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
- lacks empathy
- often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
- shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby 12ersRule » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:34 am

I scored a 12, but only a 3 in self-sufficiency. As someone who chases stuff like UN8995, being self-sufficient is probably a required asset.

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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby MountainHiker » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:43 am

Red light cameras.

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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby DaveSwink » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:52 am

[quote="Moboy56"]People on the trail listening to their ipod so they'll have an excuse for not hearing, or rendering a greeting, i.e. 'Hi, Hello'. come on people, can you not go for a few minutes without that gadget?[/quote]

People who don't get it that the MP3 player is there to shut them out. #-o

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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby Chicago Transplant » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:55 am

I got a 7

3 on Authority
4 on Self-sufficiency
0 on all other categories

Personally, I don't really want to be in a position of authority over others, but I had to answer the quiz questions away from wanting to be under someone else's authority. I don't like being bossed around but I really have no interest in being someone else's boss either. I think that having a 3 on authority and a zero on superiority is probably accurate, I like to be in charge of myself, but I don't think I am better than anyone else and don't want to be in charge of others. I am the best person to handle my own life and my own affairs, but I don't have any interest in handling anyone else's life. I am generous though, and if people seek out my help I am happy to share it.

I do consider myself to be self-sufficient, I live alone and pretty much do everything for myself and if I can't do something, I just ignore it and don't seek help. I hike solo most of the time, ski solo in resorts almost exclusively, like to be responsible for my own work projects with little oversight and little help. I rarely seek out professional help for anything, I like to take care of my own home maintenance, don't go to the doctor, etc. If something breaks I will try and fix it and only hire someone else to fix it as a last resort.
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