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Peak(s):  Kit Carson Peak  -  14,165 feet
Post Date:  07/12/2009
Date Climbed:   07/11/2009
Posted By:  nilaoire


 Ice axe or not   

Climbed Challenger and Kit Carson yesterday. To get to the saddle before you get to Challenger you have to cross two slightly steep small snow fields, the snow fields made some people we met turn around. They wished they had brought ice axes. The snow fields while steep, we didn't think were that bad, I did however find the areas pictured in #7 & #8 narrow and slippy due to some hard snow and ice, I wouldn't have minded and ice axe at that point. Bring mosquito repellent, at the lake they aren't much of a problem, prior to that point I wondered if they were on steroids.


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  • Comments or Questions
KeithK


Oh...     07/13/2009 02:21
I see, you were talking about the Avenue, not the top of the gully on Challenger Point, which is closer to the area where the gentleman fell. Yes, he appears to be recovering, and posted on here last night. Hopefully the avenue will be completely melted out before I get there...


KeithK


Photos?     07/13/2009 00:56
It would be awesome to see some photos if you have any! It sounds like the snow you encountered was where the accident occurred the other day, so it would be very helpful to know the area you‘re referring to.


nilaoire

Will drag out the camera     07/13/2009 01:01
Alas I don‘t have photos of the area I referred to as #7 and #8 mentioned on the 14er web site. If it helps, you go up the easy first part of the avenue, reach the high point, past this point the trail is narrowed by snow. Minus the snow I think it would have been a sinch. We heard some getting a 0430hrs start, I would prefer a little later start as the snow gets to soften a bit making it easier to kick step. Think about a helmet. We were all careful but still managed to loosen some rocks, either that or avoid being last up or first down.

Did the accident you mentioned have as positive a result as an accident can have?


huffy13


Mosquitos.....     07/13/2009 02:30
That isn‘t the only place they are all juiced up. The whole time I was below treeline on Shavano this week it sounded like I had a full fleet of Blackhawks coming in for the kill. I would almost be willing to bet the 70+mph winds we all encountered above tree line were blowing those huge buggers all the way to where you were!!!!


Eco

thinking of going there around the 27th     07/14/2009 04:14
any speculation on wether or not the snow will melt off the avenue in a couple of weeks? Friend and I are coming from out of state and we‘re looking for 2wd access relatively snow free 14ers in southern Colorado. Figured Challenger/Kit Carson seem like a worthy objective.


nilaoire

Snow melt on Challenger     07/15/2009 04:40
The day time temp‘s have been high, only guessing, but I‘d say it shouldn‘t be a problem in a few weeks. You only need a narrow snow free area to walk on, alternatively good deep snow where you can plung step, but hey its not winter. I‘d say it should be no problem in a few weeks. I would bring a helmet however, lots of loose rocks, not good for the noggin.


Eco

Thanks     07/15/2009 18:53
for the feedback. We‘ll definitely have helmets, hopefully the weather aligns with our schedule. We‘re planning on following the weather to several mountains in the western US. Perhaps the Middle Teton and others ..


vorticity


How Long?     07/16/2009 01:37
How long did it take you, lake back to the lake?



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