Difficult Situation With a Newbie

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Re: Difficult Situation With a Newbie

Postby MonGoose » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:54 pm

susanjoypaul wrote:As a mother of two boys, I can tell you that the more you try to dissuade him, the greater his resolve will grow to prove you wrong. I would encourage him emphatically to follow through with his plans.

In fact, you should involve yourself as much as possible. Start asking him questions, like:

1) How many .....

These are valid questions, not scare tactics. And this is Sales 101: You can't make people do something they don't want to do, or make them not do something they want to do. You just have to ask them the right questions to come to the right conclusion - yours.


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Re: Difficult Situation With a Newbie

Postby edhaman » Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:34 pm

Matt Lemke: Good one! It made me laugh out loud.
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Re: Difficult Situation With a Newbie

Postby chrismjx » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:59 pm

LOL... makes me laugh because he sounds exactly like my friend from Texas. Stubborn, don't know what they don't know, and don't care to. Any chance your friend is a Texan? :-D (FD: I grew up in TX but left about 9 years ago, and I know less about the mountains today than I did the day I left) I think the most likely outcome is that, with that 16mi hike, he'll crap out before he even gets his shot at the summit.
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Re: Difficult Situation With a Newbie

Postby oldschoolczar » Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:27 pm

chrismjx wrote:I grew up in TX but left about 9 years ago, and I know less about the mountains today than I did the day I left


Ha LOL!

OP do keep us posted. This guy sounds hilarious... I'd like to hear more of his antics!

So what was this guy doing instead of playing video games that distinguishes him so much from his peers? There are plenty of kids not playing Xbox! Is he just an exercise-obsessed goon who thinks he can do anything?
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Re: Difficult Situation With a Newbie

Postby screeman57 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:31 pm

Wow, I love reading these threads.

And I have to say, the humility displayed by the most experienced members here is so refreshing and instructive.
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Re: Difficult Situation With a Newbie

Postby Vincopotamus » Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:32 pm

I'm just disappointed that this was relayed to us through a concerned friend instead of him creating a 14ers.com account and announcing his plans directly to us. This thread is funny as is, but it had so much more potential.

Say, is Mandy still around? Maybe someone should introduce the two?
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Re: Difficult Situation With a Newbie

Postby MountainMedic » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:51 pm

kbmiller wrote:I recommend you encourage him to go. Might be able to get him removed from the gene pool before he breeds.


I was going to make a reference to the Darwin Awards myself but thought it might be in bad taste. Eh, f**k it.
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Re: Difficult Situation With a Newbie

Postby klinger » Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:01 am

This kid needs to rapp the diamond first.
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Re: Difficult Situation With a Newbie

Postby JDip » Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:28 am

Hey the kid's either got a (sic) dream or a (sic) death wish.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. The choice is his...

With that said, how many of you have ever fantasized about what this kid is talking about? I wonder what the pioneer mountaineers thought about when they imagined themselves climbing. I for one, think they envisioned glory, however raw and brutal it is to come about. Maybe they dreamed about chasing rabbits up jagged rocks to the top? Idk. Not me though, no guts not glory. Then again, no brains, no escape...

If nothing else, steer him in a direction so that he may quench his thirst one day through means of knowledge, experience and humility. Let him know that the mountains have been around much longer than he, and indeed demand respect, not foolishness. That right there says it all to me.

Best of luck my friend,

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Re: Difficult Situation With a Newbie

Postby Somewhat of a Prick » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:23 am

I bet $100 he doesn't even attempt it. He's all talk
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Re: Difficult Situation With a Newbie

Postby leggaj5 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:55 am

Start a campaign to have the mountain on the Coors Light can changed to a different 14er, maybe Mt. Sherman...or Mt. Sanitas.
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Re: Difficult Situation With a Newbie

Postby kiliclimber7_17_02 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:13 am

It's a tough climb especially the last 150 feet or so. Some difficult moves even if the rock is dry and also there is a bit of route finding. However the second post may have gotten it right. The approach will be tough enough to cause him to pause and think about it. Also the views of El Diente packing in are impressive.

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