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This Is Dr. Jon Kedrowski, I got to Slim Shady yesterday morning a couple of hours before SAR arrived on the scene. I have posted new details and photos to my blog on my website at http://www.jonkeverest.org/blog/2012/10 ... -2012.aspx
Please pray for Jeff, he is going to make a full recovery, I am sure of it. Thankyou to all the people who helped out including Katie, Tony and the rest of the West Elk Mountains SAR teams.
Nice to read Jon's report. Sure sounds like Jeff will pull thru. Hopefully he is feeling better tonight and getting a good nights sleep. Be safe all. With the change in season, things are going to change on a dime.
I don't know what is appropriate to share and what should be kept private but if I figure if I have good news, it is worthy of sharing with those of you that care about him.
(From another co-worker who spoke with nurses today) He is off breathing tubes and switched to a breathing mask. Conscious, talking, and was sharing with the nurses what happened as he could best remember. Definitely some injuries, but they are thinking of moving him out of ICU depending on how he does overnight.
Sounds like he may be out of the woods...one tough dude.
This Is Dr. Jon Kedrowski, I got to Slim Shady yesterday morning a couple of hours before SAR arrived on the scene. I have posted new details and photos to my blog on my website at http://www.jonkeverest.org/blog/2012/10 ... -2012.aspx
Please pray for Jeff, he is going to make a full recovery, I am sure of it. Thankyou to all the people who helped out including Katie, Tony and the rest of the West Elk Mountains SAR teams.
I find this violation of Jeff's privacy to be quite disturbing. If I was the one injured on a mountain I wouldn't want gruesome details about my injuries or photos put on the internet, especially if I was unable to have any say in the matter. The forum post and the blog write-up seem to be motivated by self-interest, when more respect should be given to Jeff and his family. I'll leave it at that. As far as attending to a climber in serious distress, Jon, you have my deepest appreciation and gratitude. I'm so thankful to be apart of a community that takes care of their own.
Jeff and family/friends, all the best to you on this long road to recovery during this difficult time. As Kush and Ameristrat stated, anything I can do to help let me know.
zdero1 wrote:I find this violation of Jeff's privacy to be quite disturbing. If I was the one injured on a mountain I wouldn't want gruesome details about my injuries or photos put on the internet, especially if I was unable to have any say in the matter.
I have a really hard time putting my head around this situation. This is probably a personal perspective issue, so just speaking from where I am, if I am hurt and alone in the mountains and you can read about me on the Internet and get to me with help hours before anyone else, please come. I would work any privacy issues out with you over one of the hundreds of beers I will buy you in your lifetime.
It is really good to read bits of good news about Jeff. We are pulling for you.
Dr. Jon,
You are the man.
Excellent story. Reminds me of why I climb the way I do now. I don't climb like I used to.
Now I am a 40 year old father, not a 20 something single guy.
I climbed the S ridge on Snowmass years ago, in fall, with snow on it.
I got lucky. I don't take risks like that anymore.
Cheers, and well done. I'll buy you a drink if we ever meet.
The marmot said “Nobody is perfect and you are not nobody.”
zdero1 wrote:I find this violation of Jeff's privacy to be quite disturbing. If I was the one injured on a mountain I wouldn't want gruesome details about my injuries or photos put on the internet, especially if I was unable to have any say in the matter.
I have a really hard time putting my head around this situation. This is probably a personal perspective issue, so just speaking from where I am, if I am hurt and alone in the mountains and you can read about me on the Internet and get to me with help hours before anyone else, please come. I would work any privacy issues out with you over one of the hundreds of beers I will buy you in your lifetime.
It is really good to read bits of good news about Jeff. We are pulling for you.
Yeah, I think someone needs to quit getting balled up and offended so easily.
I would rather have someone save my life and talk about it for others to learn than to have said person pop another bag of popcorn and hit the refresh button on a page waiting for someone else to do something.
Dr Jon, Kudos. Thankfully there are people like you out there willing to jump to the aid of climbers!
-Just as soon as you idiot proof something, some a**hole is just going to come along and make a better idiot.
-To Cessna: "November one, zero, four Lima Papa, wind 080 at 90 peak gusts 120, runway 35 cleared for takeoff"
To fellow controller: "Watch this sh!t"
-Whether climbing or flying, the single greatest thing to remember is that every ascent is optional, and if you feel like making another, your subsequent descent is mandatory.
Dr. Jon, don't worry about the negative comments, that happens in almost every one of these type of topics. You may have saved his life. I applaud your efforts.
flintster wrote:He is off breathing tubes and switched to a breathing mask. Conscious, talking, and was sharing with the nurses what happened as he could best remember. Definitely some injuries, but they are thinking of moving him out of ICU depending on how he does overnight.
zdero1 wrote:I find this violation of Jeff's privacy to be quite disturbing. If I was the one injured on a mountain I wouldn't want gruesome details about my injuries or photos put on the internet, especially if I was unable to have any say in the matter.
I have a really hard time putting my head around this situation. This is probably a personal perspective issue, so just speaking from where I am, if I am hurt and alone in the mountains and you can read about me on the Internet and get to me with help hours before anyone else, please come. I would work any privacy issues out with you over one of the hundreds of beers I will buy you in your lifetime.
It is really good to read bits of good news about Jeff. We are pulling for you.
Yeah, I think someone needs to quit getting balled up and offended so easily.
I would rather have someone save my life and talk about it for others to learn than to have said person pop another bag of popcorn and hit the refresh button on a page waiting for someone else to do something.
Dr Jon, Kudos. Thankfully there are people like you out there willing to jump to the aid of climbers!
Don't think anyone is arguing that they would want to be helped on a mountain (or anywhere for that matter) if in distress. Also don't think there is any disagreement that Jon did a remarkably brave deed that improved (if not optimized) this climber's chances of survival. My point is that this information was dispersed in a completely inappropriate way. The blog title, the credentials, and you know...advertising his book on his post indicate that he is using this unfortunate circumstance to plug his own name. Consider how your family would feel if you were that injured climber...seeing your blood splattered all over the mountainside? Is that something you would desire? Suppose you didn't survive the accident and your final moments were on display for everyone to gawk at. The act of helping another climber is distress is admirable...the way this is being publicized by Jon is complete trash worthy of deletion. Jeff and his family deserve better, and in that same breath I apologize that this thread is headed off-route.