Grand Cherokee vs. Xterra

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Re: Grand Cherokee vs. Xterra

Postby painless4u2 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:29 pm

12ersRule wrote:
people still get away with selling these monstrosities


Monstrosities? These aren't exactly H1 Hummers. 22 mpg maybe doesn't match your Prius, but they will sure take you a lot more places and tow a lot more stuff. You pay a bit more in fuel costs to do much more with your vehicle, beyond getting groceries at Whole Foods. By the way, the US is expected to be a net oil exporter in a few years.
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Re: Grand Cherokee vs. Xterra

Postby Mountainspirit » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:42 pm

My '01 Laredo takes me anywhere. I keep up with annual maintenance (some years are more than others) and averages 22 mpg in 4WD. It has about 235,000 miles and writing this better not jinx anything! :-"
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Re: Grand Cherokee vs. Xterra

Postby highpilgrim » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:44 pm

painless4u2 wrote:By the way, the US is expected to be a net oil exporter in a few years.


Sweet!

I hope they're fracking under your house or at least in your neighborhood. I wouldn't want them to only destroy the Canadian wilderness on our way to leadership in global oil production.
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Re: Grand Cherokee vs. Xterra

Postby falcon568 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:53 pm

I bought a Xterra Pro-4X when I moved to Colorado this last summer, and love it thus far. Hauls all my gear, saves me miles of mind-numbing road slogging to get to the 4WD Trailheads, and I can sleep in the back with the seats folded down (6'4" tall). I looked at getting a 4Runner, which are awesome, but you have to pay so much more to get the same trail features. Either that or shop models 5 years older than you were hoping for. Can't go wrong with either though. The Pro-4X has a pretty Spartan interior, but plently of storage room. I keep some granola bars tucked away in the middle console to toss to hungry Prius owners laboring up from the 2WD Trailheads. I may or may not feel inclined to congratulate them on their environmental superiority with the following as I pass
"Of course, inside each one of us is the ambition to reach the summit, to realize that you are stronger than obstacles, that it is within your power to do something uncommon and indeed impossible for most people. But one must be prepared to face those obstacles..."-Ed Viesturs

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Re: Grand Cherokee vs. Xterra

Postby RobertKay » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:03 pm

The best off road vehicle is a rental car with the full insurance package!
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Re: Grand Cherokee vs. Xterra

Postby painless4u2 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:30 pm

I hope they're fracking under your house or at least in your neighborhood.


Funny!

Actually, they may already be doing that. Hard to tell though, since it's usually done several thousand feet underground and goes on unnoticed by most. Fracking has been going on since the '40's in the US, by the way, but just now getting a lot of notice. Especially by the Prius crowd it seems.

Fill 'er up!
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Re: Grand Cherokee vs. Xterra

Postby highpilgrim » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:50 pm

painless4u2 wrote:Fill 'er up!


painless4u2 wrote:Fracking has been going on since the '40's in the US, by the way, but just now getting a lot of notice.


Yeah, and the dental boys of that period were filling teeth with mercury infused silver...mercury has sure proved to be beneficial to human health, hasn't it?

And correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the water table deep below the surface, unnoticed by most?
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Re: Grand Cherokee vs. Xterra

Postby painless4u2 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:06 pm

I guess they didn't teach much dentistry or geology in design school, huh?

We're terribly off message here, but mercury alloyed silver restorations are still in use today, and happen to be one of the most tested (and proven safe) materials used in humans for well over 100 years.

The water tables are many thousand feet shallower than the fractured drilling that is going on, in a completely unrelated, and protected, layer.

Back on subject, I really like my '05 Pathfinder Off Road 4X4. 159,000 miles and counting.

Now that's sweet!
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Re: Grand Cherokee vs. Xterra

Postby Tortoise1 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:43 pm

The 3.6 liter Pentastar engine in the Jeep is off to a pretty shaky start. I want to get a new Wrangler but it scares me a bit. The Nissan 4.0 liter seems to be very solid.
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Re: Grand Cherokee vs. Xterra

Postby RobertKay » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:14 am

Tortoise1 wrote:The 3.6 liter Pentastar engine in the Jeep is off to a pretty shaky start. I want to get a new Wrangler but it scares me a bit. The Nissan 4.0 liter seems to be very solid.


What problems are they having? I have one in my Wrangler Unlimited - should I sell it now?
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Re: Grand Cherokee vs. Xterra

Postby lordhelmut » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:56 am

Aside from fracking under houses and mercury infused teeth fillers - since the OP mentioned a Subaru Outback 2.5 limited, all I can say is maybe pony up a little more and go for the 3.6 (probably better overall for Colorado) if you decide to go that route (only come in automatic). Then again, that might defeat the purpose of getting the Subaru for the mpg's. The 2.5 manual is a 6-speed and does climb hills well. Mine averages 27-30. I used to be turned off by the almost SUV look of the new Outbacks, but have come to embrace the roomier interior, 8.7 inches of clearance and everything else that goes along with it.

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