Klinger1986 wrote:Would you consider the Trailhawk a "stock" Jeep?
For $30k, you could get a "Pro-4x" Xterra that would be more off-road capable, but would look out of place at the Philharmonic Orchestra concert or cruising the streets of Vail in the winter.
This is the type of information I'm looking for. I honestly don't care about the outer appearance. I drive a Prius C, not because it looks cool, but because it gets 55mpg. The same would apply for this vehicle. I am looking for something that can preform on the road and off the road, is cost effective, and is more roomy than my Prius. I do not know a lot about the Xterra, but I am going to start looking into it.
denvermikey wrote:The biggest issue that would keep me from ever purchasing a GC is the reliability. The Jeep GC has consistently been one of the worst SUVs on the market as far as reliability. Another side effect of this is that the resale value is terrible.
I personally would lean more towards a Nissan XTerra (although a bit smaller) or maybe a Toyota 4Runner. Either of these would (more than) suit your needs, most likely be much more reliable, and not tank so hard in their value(s).
This is not to say that the Jeep will for sure break down, it's just that the odds of it having issues are far greater than most.
I had this same concern when even considering Grand Cherokee last year, but after reading current reviews (i.e. Edmunds, Consumer Reports, etc), that M.O. is well out of date. The GC is best of class and crushing 4runner (my previous all time favorite) in terms of reliability and overall rankings. The quality of the ride is way better in a GC than in a 4runner or Xterra, or really anything out them IMO.
Since my May purchase last year, I've got 28k miles and been to many TH's (Antero, Colony Lakes, Princeton, many in ID and WY, etc) and it has performed awesome. I bet the Trailhawk would be sweet.
After a little research I have found that GC do have some fall backs. If you check out this link(http://www.truedelta.com/Jeep-Grand-Cherokee/problems-144/2012
)it seems that there are a lot of electrical problems with their vehicles. I personally do not like taking a gamble, so this is a variable that I'm going to have to consider.
Greenhouseguy wrote:I think that people are talking about two different vehicles in this thread: the Cherokee Trailhawk and the Grand Cherokee Trailhawk.
The Cherokee Trailhawk is an XUV that is based on the relatively new Dodge Dart platform. The Cherokee replaces the Liberty, which has been discontinued. It reportedly outperforms the Liberty in angle of approach, angle of departure, and breakover angle. I'm not sure about clearance. Gas mileage should hit the low 30's. It's probably superior to most XUVs in that it comes with skid plates, tow hooks, locking rear differential, two-speed transfer case, and 1" more clearance than the standard Cherokee. It's probably fair to compare it to an Outback or Forester, since it's built on a passenger car platform. If it performs as well as a Subaru, it could be an ideal Colorado vehicle for people who like to drive the occasional Forest Service road, but aren't really interested in rock crawling.
The Grand Cherokee Trailhawk is the real-deal SUV. Jeep claims that it's their best-ever Grand Cherokee, and I don't doubt it. It comes with full skid plates, rock rails, tow hooks, a sophisticated AWD system, and a ton of clearance. Other than a Rubicon, I'm not sure there's anything new out there that could beat it off-road. On-road, it would have to best-in-class.
Obviously, there's a big price difference between the two Trailhawks.
This is something that I'm a little confused on, Greenhouseguy. I keep hearing the Trailhawk being called the Grand Cherokee Trailhawk, but the Jeep website does not indicate this. In fact, their website almost makes it seem like they are synonymous. On their website, when you go to build a Jeep, it just calls it the Trailhawk. So is there a Cherokee Trailhawk and a GC Trailhawk? Maybe this is something you could clarify?
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