eagrnnr wrote:Remember, if you, or if your dog, kicks loose rock onto people in a Class 3 environment, someone can very quickly wind up dead. You're not the only one on the route, remember that.
Not to be rude but that is not really relevant to the question because humans are just as capable of kicking rocks as dogs are. I've been in many class 3/4/5 environments by myself and with my dog and I know the protocols.
It is completely relevant. Dog's don't understand repercussions of rock fall. I'm not saying someone should never take their dog up into those conditions. I trust Kushrocks and his pup, and I know he is a knowledgeable climber and watches out for others. I would expect that out of anyone who takes their dog up on a route like that. But I have also seen people who took their dogs onto similar routes and it turned into a disaster. I had to help a girl get her dog down off of the class 3 section of the sawtooth last year. The poor thing was shaking like mad and obviously terrified.The owner couldn't get the dog down herself, which violates what I think is one of the biggest tenants of taking your dog into the mountains. If you can't get your do down in an emergency without the help of others, then you sure as hell shouldn't have your dog up there. Me and my partner had to put ourselves into a potentially dangerous situation to help them out, all because of some poor planning on their part. I also witnessed a massive rock slide in the gulley (standard route) on My. Lindsey that was started by a dog. It would have destroyed anyone below them.
Please keep in mind that people on this forum only have access to the information you provide. No one knows your background or abilities except for the few 14ers that you have listed as completed. If someone just looked at those and then saw your question, I think some assumptions would be that you probably shouldn't be taking your dog up there. Not saying those are correct assumptions, but we don't all know each other personally here and can only go off of the information at hand
If you train dogs and such, and have experience with dogs in similar situations then you can probably manage just fine. A little more background with such a potentially hot button question might help out next time.