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Re: Dogs on 14ers

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:24 am
by metalmountain
bonehead wrote:A little historical perspective maybe.
Not that I'm a big fan of horse crap, but:
Horse packers (with their dogs) have a much longer history in the high country than backpackers, hikers and climbers.
My first adventures in the Sierras in the sixties found way more horses than hikers.
Of course it's the other way around now.
Back then I think they had the same disdain for backpackers as we now seem to have for them.
I don't disdain the horses...just the recycled hay piles they leave behind hehe. :D

Re: Dogs on 14ers

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:24 pm
by Missy_Goat
Dog owners should pick up their dog's poop when hiking..... I usually use those little poop bags you can buy at petsmart, clip it to the outside of your pack and your good to go. Sooooooooooo........logically.....shouldn't horse owners pick up their horse's poop!? Can you imagine the size of THAT bag! :shock: I would probably suggest using the big, black trash can sacks! Imagine those all clipped to the back of your pack. #-o

Re: Dogs on 14ers

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:27 pm
by metalmountain
Missy_Goat wrote:Dog owners should pick up their dog's poop when hiking..... I usually use those little poop bags you can buy at petsmart, clip it to the outside of your pack and your good to go. Sooooooooooo........logically.....shouldn't horse owners pick up their horse's poop!? Can you imagine the size of THAT bag! :shock: I would probably suggest using the big, black trash can sacks! Imagine those all clipped to the back of your pack. #-o

Hahaha indeed...while I fully support the hauling out of said horse droppings, the logistics of that type of operation would be quite daunting. Maybe they could hire one of those guys like at the circus that walk around with a trash can on wheels and a shovel? :P

Re: Dogs on 14ers

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:36 pm
by Missy_Goat
Metalmountain

Oooohhh!! Thats a good one! Course.......there are the poop bags that just hang on the horses rear. I've seen them used in parades...............hmmmmm..... idea! :idea:

Re: Dogs on 14ers

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:37 pm
by metalmountain
Missy_Goat wrote:Metalmountain

Oooohhh!! Thats a good one! Course.......there are the poop bags that just hang on the horses rear. I've seen them used in parades...............hmmmmm..... idea! :idea:

Wait...they make horse diapers?! If not...I think I just found my way to my first million dollars!

Re: Dogs on 14ers

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:46 pm
by Missy_Goat
Looks like someone beat you to it!!!

Re: Dogs on 14ers

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:47 pm
by metalmountain
Missy_Goat wrote:Looks like someone beat you to it!!!

Damn! And also...that thing is kinda scary/intimidating. I don't think I would go near a horse with that on.

Re: Dogs on 14ers

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:48 pm
by Missy_Goat
Ha!!! Yeah....course. I think I would be one embarrassed horse!!! :oops:

Re: Dogs on 14ers

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:58 pm
by Canadian in Colorado
Missy_Goat wrote:Dog owners should pick up their dog's poop when hiking..... I usually use those little poop bags you can buy at petsmart, clip it to the outside of your pack and your good to go.
Completely agree...but I get so frustrated when some people go to the effort to pick up the poop with the bag, tie the bag nicely and then leave it sitting next to the trail with the intention of picking it up on their way back down....but then it never gets picked up! Might as well have just left the poop bagless ](*,)

Re: Dogs on 14ers

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:02 am
by bonehead
Dex wrote:Why would they have disdain for backpackers back then? I don't get it.
Backpackers were intruding on "their" turf.
Scaring their stock.
Hiker/Mountain Biker/Runner/Dog/Horse.
We all think it is our turf.
Get It?

Re: Dogs on 14ers

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:36 pm
by bonehead
Dex wrote:Let's keep it real.
I might drop the Scaring their stock comment.
But you must relieze this was 45 years ago I'm talking about, not your modern experience.
People on the trails were new to the stock at that time.
A typical pack train would be a dozen or more horses and mules,
who coming upon a backpacker clinging to the side of a steep trail,
trying to get out of their way, sometimes they got spooked.
I've been there, seen it.
And I do firmly stand behind my Turf War theory.
Isn't turf wars what this thread is all about anyway.

Re: Dogs on 14ers

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:12 am
by tmathews