rijaca wrote:planet54 wrote:That's a bunch of BS, Junior. As a person who started doing 14ers in the 70's with only the Ormes book as a guide I can tell you that with the plethora of info that is available now, doing an easier 14er today is akin to following a recipe in a cookbook. Not so much for the harder ones. Huron Peak for example, but there are several others, didn't have any trail at all when I climbed it. How can having a trail not be easier than bushwhacking, dealing with downed trees, willows, wet grass and bushes, routefinding ? Not to mention spending hours on slopes looking for a flat spots so you aren't on your toes all the time. With all due respect of course.
Pops, you're such a BAMF!
Those class 2 bushwacking adventures sure were way more difficult than the class 1 trail. Those grassy bushy slopes of Huron with downed trees were way more difficult than the yellow brick road that exists today. Or about that boardwalk across the leg swallowing muck of those pesky willows on Bierstadt? Another example of a class 2 adventure made way more easy with a yellow brick road. Or how about Tabeguache? Those nasty scree slopes from Jennings Gulch, or the hump up over Shavano from Blanks Cabin? Wait, that's prob'ly about same effort. Or Humboldt from the upper (former) S Colony Lakes TH, compared to starting several miles lower at the current TH. Yep, another example of way more difficult.
btw D'Arcy, I have been going back to hike/climb some of the 14ers, cuz I can't remember the first time.
again... yes, class 2 bushwacking is considerably harder than a class 1 trail. Considerably. Needing to exercise real route-finding skills makes a climb harder. What's interesting is that I can feel your sarcasm, yet you make many valid points to the contrary of what you're arguing for. You don't think the Bierstadt Boardwalk made the climb a LOT easier? Ever tried climbing Evans from Guanella TH (without climbing over the top of Bierstadt first)? The fact that you can come up with some examples where the hike has gotten longer (can you think of more than 1 or 2?) means nothing, climbing a 14er (by it's easiest route) has become easier over the past several decades, you're smoking something if you think otherwise.