Original 14er list?

[dpage]

North Eolus is not on the current list. To my knowledge, the only place it has ever appeared is a single website (this one), which added it for the first time about four years ago.

A quick Google search shows North Eolus on Summitpost, Cave Dogs website, LoJ, and Alan Arnette's site.

[TallGrass]

the only place [North Eolus] has ever appeared is a single website (this one)

Other places listed in addition to the above:
Colorado Mountain Club (CMC) event
http://www.peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=5859 North Eolus, Colorado
http://www.thesummitridge.com/north-eolus-peak.html
http://www.mtnzone.com/peak/eolus_north
http://www.outtherecolorado.com/destina ... orth-eolus[/b]/5000439/
http://14erskirecord.com/ "#46 N. Eolus (14,039′) Tuesday May 24, 2016"
https://www.mountainproject.com/v/109546529 (could use a dedicated page though)
http://www.lazerdesigns.com/Merchant2/m ... 4[b]NEOLUS[/b]
Numerous other merchandise sites too.

[Oman]

My continuing slurs against North Eolus are mostly in jest, mainly because I finished my first trip through the 14ers before North Eolus was on anybody's list, including the list on this website.

There is no doubt that North Eolus has been added in the years since to websites run by several individuals. People have been turning molehills (and other undistinguished geological benchmarks) into mountains for centuries.

If I recall correctly, not every 14er summit has a geologic benchmark, though this seems to be the sole feature that qualifies North Eolus for any list. Hmm. Should we subtract peaks from the list that do not have benchmarks?

Are there benchmarks on South Wilson, East Crestone, North Massive, and South Elbert? As for North Eolus, do we really want to be calling something a mountain if it can be summited in 10 minutes as a mere detour from the shoulder of a real mountain?

In the meantime, North Eolus is not on the Colorado Mountain Club list:
http://peakbagger.com/list.aspx?lid=5008

It is not on the list of the Colorado Fourteeners Initiative:
http://www.14ers.org/wp-content/uploads ... 9.2016.pdf

When our sons get closer to finishing the 14ers list, I will return to the Chicago Basin and likely will stand atop North Eolus, though I won't be able to claim with a straight face that I summited anything.

Have fun!

[TallGrass]

As for North Eolus, do we really want to be calling something a mountain if it can be summited in 10 minutes as a mere detour from the shoulder of a real mountain? In the meantime, North Eolus is not on the Colorado Mountain Club list: http://peakbagger.com/list.aspx?lid=5008

Well, you took "10 minutes" for Mount Cameron, which is less prominent than N. Eolus, then added it to your list along with Conundrum and Challenger despite the CMC omitting those three.

[Scott P]

Bumping this up since changing lists and elevations are being discussed in the Sunshine Peak thread. It might be of interest to some.

[bdloftin77]

Found this book online with a "guide to Colorado" from 1892. Pretty interesting.
https://www.google.com/books/edition/_/ ... =en&gbpv=0

On page 26 is a list of the Principal Peaks of Colorado, all above 14,000 feet. In the notes, he used "Nell" for his elevation data (page 26 after the intro pages, starts going to page 25, then restarts a bit later going beyond 26).

Also cool to read are trip reports of Longs (year not mentioned; p.108), Grays (1868; p.119), and Mt Lincoln (1865; p.122).

I've been exploring some of the old maps from the Kit Carson original name thread. Pretty cool stuff. If you click "Launch Google Earth Application" on the link below, it'll save a kmz that you can bring into Google Earth - lots of old maps overlaid on the globe which you can toggle on and off.
https://www.davidrumsey.com/view/google-earth

The Colorado Hand-Book by W. G. M. Stone (1892)

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1892 List

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1892 List Notes

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[peter303]

Interesting topic. The old list on the linked page has some peaks with incorrect elevations by more than 100ft. Obviously surveying equipment has improved significantly since then, but perhaps not all the peaks slightly under 14,000 have been surveyed since. Does anyone have a good idea about the likelihood of a marginal peak such as Grizzly being measured to at least 14,000ft?

Not to mention a a new NOAA reference sea level starts 2022.

https://www.ngs.noaa.gov/GRAV-D/

Colorado altitudes will fall about 60 centimeters (2 feet).
The project leader lives in Boulder and climbs 14ers. He said he might informally measure the borderline peaks.

[bdloftin77]

The project leader lives in Boulder and climbs 14ers. He said he might informally measure the borderline peaks.

That would be cool. Keep us updated if you find out more!

[Scott P]

It is interesting that Buckskin is listed higher than Lincoln. When you are on either of them, it's easy to tell which one is the higher of the two. The footnote does say doubtful though.

[bdloftin77]

It is interesting that Buckskin is listed higher than Lincoln. When you are on either of them, it's easy to tell which one is the higher of the two. The footnote does say doubtful though.

I'm thinking Buckskin refers to Mt Democrat (https://14ers.com/php14ers/historyview. ... %20History), and that the 6 might be a typo for a 0. I screenshotted Hayden's 1881 map of that area below, as well as Wheeler's 1879 map.

Hayden 1881 Map

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Wheeler 1879 Map

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[Sbenfield]

Goat’s Pk…anyone know what that one is?

[greenonion]

When was parallax figured out? Without shrooms