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Since when is climbing Mt. Everest a competition? Otherwise, supplemental O2 might be considered doping and cheating.

gdthomas wrote:Since when is climbing Mt. Everest a competition? Otherwise, supplemental O2 might be considered doping and cheating.

Exactly, it isn't a contest. There aren't any rules. Who cares if someone uses O2? I don't think most people treat mountaineering as a competitive sport.

Did Sir Edmund and Tenzing cheat when they used O2? I think not.

gearhunter wrote:By his same measure he should stop taking Fish Oil, using Creatine, and Protein Powder because they should be considered the same as using Steroids to boost the body's performance.

The reason steroids are banned (or the reason they should be banned) is that they are dangerous as hell. Comparing them to basic nutritional supplements, supplemental oxygen, proper training technique, or water consumption is nonsensical. The purpose of sport is to boost the body's performance.

I think you missed my point completely.

jdorje wrote:

gearhunter wrote:By his same measure he should stop taking Fish Oil, using Creatine, and Protein Powder because they should be considered the same as using Steroids to boost the body's performance.

The reason steroids are banned (or the reason they should be banned) is that they are dangerous as hell. Comparing them to basic nutritional supplements, supplemental oxygen, proper training technique, or water consumption is nonsensical. The purpose of sport is to boost the body's performance.

There have been no scientific studies that conclude that steroids, test C, anadrol, d-bol, nanadrolone ect. are dangerous to your health. It is all 100% speculation. Sylvester Stalone has been on HGH for years, and aint looking too shabby for 65. IMO
Remember what they told us about weed back in the 80's? Causes cancer, shrinking of testicles, brain tumors....

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winmag4582001 wrote: There have been no scientific studies that conclude that steroids, test C, anadrol, d-bol, nanadrolone ect. are dangerous to your health. It is all 100% speculation.

In case some teenager reads this and (also) hates science, just wanted to point out that there are scores of studies on humans and rats involving negative psychiatric effects alone. No further comment from me regarding that.

Dave B wrote:Mark Twight has some searing words on this topic,

http://coldthistle.blogspot.com/2013/01 ... to-us.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thesis: supplemental oxygen on 8000 meter peaks is the equivalent of doping, doping is the equivalent of cheating.

Interesting, but as possible retort: is scuba diving a form of doping?

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Last weekend i blood doped with tequila and cheated on beer.

gearhunter wrote:Last weekend i blood doped with tequila and cheated on beer.

Well, that explains the fascination with Bigfoot....