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Re: Humphreys Peak

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:51 pm
by Matt
Thanks, Mr. Steiner.
Gotta disagree with you here:
Mark A Steiner wrote: The highest point in AZ is not that spectacular ... but is in its own way.
The view from this summit is one of the finest in the land. Peaks in CO, even ones with more prominence (like Elbert) don't offer the expansive, endless 360 degree views that peaks like Humphreys can.

I have been up Humphreys three times in the spring via the standard (2x) and Dutchman Route. If there's enough snow for snowshoes, I'd go Dutchman. It's more direct and has really cool airplane wreckage to check out. However, the standard route may be more packed down and easier to follow, if that's what you're looking for. Agassiz is open when snow covered.
You could make a loop out of it by doing both routes.
You can also check out Arizona Hikers and hikearizona.com for beta.
The Dutchman page above and the Snow Bowl website have plenty of the info you ask for, OP.

BTW, does anyone know if "Humphrey" on SP is Flag denizen jhodlof, seen here below me on Hesperus, who used to frequent this site? I lost touch with him a couple years ago, but he was on about 67 summits of Humphreys then... Name changes on SP aren't unheard of, as Barry Raven can attest.
TravelingMatt wrote:Haven't heard that, but there are two well-known peaks named Agassiz in California and another in Utah. The other California one is near Tahoe (and I have climbed it).
Dude, what bastard made you climb an unranked peak? :shock:

Re: Humphreys Peak

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:54 pm
by Mark A Steiner
ebnhils wrote:My understanding is that Agassiz is off limit during certain times due to fragile plant life. I think the only time it is permitted to be climbed is when snow covered.
Back in '86 that was the case when I was there, although I wasn't aware of the restriction ... I happened to summit in mid-September after a good snowfall - when the mid '80's saw active summers monsoons and early snows on the SF Peaks ... I would guess these peaks are probably as dry as the Colorado Rockies this year, based on e-mailings I receive from a resident of Parks, west of Flagstaff.

Re: Humphreys Peak

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:58 pm
by Mark A Steiner
Matt wrote:Thanks, Mr. Steiner.
Gotta disagree with you here:
Mark A Steiner wrote: The highest point in AZ is not that spectacular ... but is in its own way.
The view from this summit is one of the finest in the land. Peaks in CO, even ones with more prominence (like Elbert) don't offer the expansive, endless 360 degree views that peaks like Humphreys can.

Thanks for your amplification, Matt. When I was on Agassiz I didn't get the view you detailed in your response. Could see Fremont Peak to the east but views were blocked in other directions ... I concur with your summary and glad you experienced the 360-degree view. I have heard/read others report the same.

Re: Humphreys Peak

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:18 pm
by mr14ner
I also recommend the standard route, especially if you are not familiar with the area. You will have to start at the lower parking lot at the ski area, which is the standard trailhead. Access to the trail via the upper parking area has been closed for the past two years while they install water lines for snow making at the ski area.

Here is a link to info about the backcountry permits (scroll to the bottom of the page). It's not clear when 'winter' begins and you then need a permit.

http://www.fs.usda.gov/main/coconino/pa ... recreation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Lastly, be prepared for wind. It can be as bad as the high peaks in CO.

Re: Humphreys Peak

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:22 pm
by mr14ner
Forgot to add a link to the webcam that best shows the peaks.

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/fgz/webcam/webcam.php?wfo=fgz" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Humphreys Peak

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:41 pm
by TravelingMatt
Matt wrote:
TravelingMatt wrote:Haven't heard that, but there are two well-known peaks named Agassiz in California and another in Utah. The other California one is near Tahoe (and I have climbed it).
Dude, what bastard made you climb an unranked peak? :shock:
I did it in combination with Pyramid, which *is* ranked. 8)

Re: Humphreys Peak

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:42 am
by nyker
Thanks guys, this is all very helpful.

Re: Humphreys Peak

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:41 pm
by Tortoise1
9 miles, 3350 gain for standard route is about right. No permit required, no gates to worry about. Nothing steep, first half or so in the woods. Trail gets a little faint/ambiguous after the saddle at 11,800 but you can't really go wrong. Prepare mentally for several false peaks, the last one really convincing.

Re: Humphreys Peak

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:03 am
by Porkrind
I did it with my son in August 2007 while on a family trip to the Grand Canyon. Don't have anything new to add than what has already been said, just to reiterate that there are indeed 360 degree views as far as you can see from the summit - depending on the weather- and if clear, you can see the Grand Canyon (barely) to the north/northwest. Like said, several false summits and rocky hiking above treeline.

Re: Humphreys Peak

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:42 am
by Porkrind
Here's my "summit shot" in August 2007 (no snow of course). This is looking to the south, the peak in the background appears higher, but is not.

Re: Humphreys Peak

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:25 am
by Mark A Steiner
Porkrind wrote:Here's my "summit shot" in August 2007 (no snow of course). This is looking to the south, the peak in the background appears higher, but is not.
Must have been a good monsoon that year - very green up high and below. The Peaks are the main vent in an amazing volcanic field in northern Arizona - fresh lava flows and cinder cones all over.

Re: Humphreys Peak

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:14 pm
by nyker
Hmm, I am getting more excited about it. I've never really spent much time in that area, so will have a little more time this go around.

Thanks everyone. Looks like there is some cool stuff to see around there too - though the Grand Canyon may have some ice on the steeper portions of the trails I imagine.