J-RockandRockpile wrote:madbuck wrote:madbuck wrote:
Somewhat agreed, but the distinction of Wilderness Ethics is involved in what to expect in Wilderness. One can expect to play music or hear shouting at a public park. One can expect cell phone conversations on NYC sidewalks. One can expect to ride an ATV or mt. bike or your favourite hang glider elsewhere.
This is simple in codifying specifically that electronic devices and excessive noise are a significant detriment to Wilderness experience. It is helpful and important to understand what "Wilderness" means.
It does not mean that every possible pet peeve -- e.g. someone wearing a rival team's baseball cap or cotton or bushy sideburns -- is necessarily a legitimate complaint that is antithetical to the Wilderness ethic.
It means don't come up on a summit and call work or your friends and say, "Guess where I am?" and then discuss details of your TPS report. But if you're certain that nobody's around, or you consciously move away out of earshot or text discretely, go for it. Everybody wins.
The always has been taken away, I actually did not intend on leaving that at all - just a poor job in cropping. One could also begin to "expect" music and talking on 14ers as they continue to grow in popularity and the same droves of people whom inhabit the city make there way onto these summits. As many of these people will do little research into the codifying and definition of Wildreness or even consider its ethics. Generally speaking people rarely do any in depth research of anything these days, they may hear that a friend of a friend hiked a mountain and its sounds 'cool' or 'fun' and they then submit themselves to that endeavor. You want to talk "ethics" with the average person go for it, thats a whole new ball game.
Well, let us begin with ourselves and be exemplary.