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Re: Forest Service vs. Mountain Goats

Postby MonGoose » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:42 am

"And it wasn't by chance, either. The Forest Service blames the aggressive behavior on humans, who fed the goats or let them lick their hands and gear for salt." - from the article

Or urinated at some point during the day.
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Re: Forest Service vs. Mountain Goats

Postby TheOtherIndian » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:22 am

Not to derail the topic but what is the worst a goat can do to a man? I'm not talking about chewed gears or tearing up bags but asking about in an actual physical confrontation, what is the goat capable of doing? We had some encounters with the goats on Pyramid that bordered on mild harassment (for us that is)
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Re: Forest Service vs. Mountain Goats

Postby smoove » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:24 am

TheOtherIndian wrote:Not to derail the topic but what is the worst a goat can do to a man? I'm not talking about chewed gears or tearing up bags but asking about in an actual physical confrontation, what is the goat capable of doing? We had some encounters with the goats on Pyramid that bordered on mild harassment (for us that is)


This happened just a couple years back: http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/27/goat-vs-man/

Edit: I apologize that this is an opinion article.
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Re: Forest Service vs. Mountain Goats

Postby Dan_Suitor » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:26 am

TheOtherIndian wrote:Not to derail the topic but what is the worst a goat can do to a man? I'm not talking about chewed gears or tearing up bags but asking about in an actual physical confrontation, what is the goat capable of doing? We had some encounters with the goats on Pyramid that bordered on mild harassment (for us that is)



This: http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2010/10/mountain_goat_likely_fatally_injured_olympic_national_park_hiker.html
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Re: Forest Service vs. Mountain Goats

Postby Jelgan » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:28 am

A man in Washington state was fatally gored by a mountain goat a couple years back.

http://news.discovery.com/animals/mountain-goat-attack.html

Its certainly not common, but could happen again, especially if they start getting comfortable in human presence. I like the paint ball strategy used here, seems like a good middle ground of definitely giving the goats a reason to want to stay away from humans, without causing lasting damage.
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Re: Forest Service vs. Mountain Goats

Postby TheOtherIndian » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:31 am

smoove wrote:This happened just a couple years back: http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/10/27/goat-vs-man/

Edit: I apologize that this is an opinion article.





I should have read the last line of the original article #-o
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Re: Forest Service vs. Mountain Goats

Postby jblyth » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:32 am

TheOtherIndian wrote:We had some encounters with the goats on Pyramid that bordered on mild harassment (for us that is)


Ain’t that the truth….I thought that was going to go to fisticuffs! Don't think that momma goat was a fan of us....
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Re: Forest Service vs. Mountain Goats

Postby KentonB » Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:16 am

jblyth17 wrote:
TheOtherIndian wrote:We had some encounters with the goats on Pyramid that bordered on mild harassment (for us that is)


Ain’t that the truth….I thought that was going to go to fisticuffs! Don't think that momma goat was a fan of us....

You guys must have scared them for us before we got to the summit! :-) I didn't find them aggressive, but they did seem "fearless" of humans... more like they were waiting for a handout. A couple times I came across a goat ahead of me on the "trail"... and had to chase it away.
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Re: Forest Service vs. Mountain Goats

Postby smoove » Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:28 am

Came across this goat on S. Maroon back in June. I think this guy was wondering what we were doing on his trail. We got up out of his way.

http://youtu.be/VCrfhRk9owU
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Re: Forest Service vs. Mountain Goats

Postby Dan_Suitor » Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:57 am

smoove wrote:Came across this goat on S. Maroon back in June. I think this guy was wondering what we were doing on his trail. We got up out of his way.

http://youtu.be/VCrfhRk9owU



How rude of him not to holler “ROCK” after kicking all of that rock down the hill :)
They are definitely magnificent creatures that demand respect as you did.
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Re: Forest Service vs. Mountain Goats

Postby GregMiller » Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:17 am

Ended up running into these guys on the ridge between Father Dyer and Mt. Helen, decided that they could have the ridgeline and went well down and around from them.
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