Attempt at Teddy Keizer's Speed Record

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Re: Attempt at Teddy Keizer's Speed Record

Postby jameseroni » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:34 pm

It just boggles the mind what that guy did.
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Re: Attempt at Teddy Keizer's Speed Record

Postby unclegar » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:37 pm

Beto wrote:
dmccool wrote:
jameseroni wrote: irregardless.


Not a real word.


Strunk and White settles this for us. In this context, the correct word choice is disirregardless.


Mostly only people from Winchestertonfieldville, Iowa use the word disirregardless.
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Re: Attempt at Teddy Keizer's Speed Record

Postby DaveSwink » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:42 pm

[quote="55mountains"]Wish I Lived in Colorado, the goal is to climb each one this summer and get the feel for it. [/quote]

Just climbing the Colorado 14ers in a summer is a worthy goal. Have you laid out a preliminary schedule yet? Are you free from work/school commitments next summer?

[quote="unclegar"]Mostly only people from Winchestertonfieldville, Iowa use the word disirregardless.[/quote]

Hahaha!
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Re: Attempt at Teddy Keizer's Speed Record

Postby dmccool » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:50 pm

unclegar wrote:
Mostly only people from Winchestertonfieldville, Iowa use the word disirregardless.


Really?? I know, right?
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Re: Attempt at Teddy Keizer's Speed Record

Postby Tory Wells » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:54 pm

In my opinion, I would think it to be mandatory to have climbed all (or at least, most) of the these 14er routes before setting out on this journey. We've all been there: having a hard time finding a trailhead, or taking a wrong turn at a trail junction, or starting up an incorrect route, only to have to backtrack...any of these would cost you precious time you won't be able to waste on a record attempt. Having prior-knowledge of these mountains would go a long way to preventing these mistakes, which will only be easier to make when you are really f-ing tired. I'm not sure what Cave Dog's experience level was before his attempt, but I'm guessing he spent some time on these peaks beforehand. But I could wrong.

Going in with no direct knowledge of most of the peaks would be a big mistake, I think.
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Re: Attempt at Teddy Keizer's Speed Record

Postby unclegar » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:19 pm

dmccool wrote:Really?? I know, right?

It's all good. Especially the #2. :lol:
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Re: Attempt at Teddy Keizer's Speed Record

Postby Winter8000m » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:33 am

Two things

1) Good luckI Chase it. With alot of work you can do it. I'm not going to be one of those people that downs you. I think it's awesome to have big dreams. Anything is possible. Your mind puts the limits to your body.

2) For the project, more then anything, study the Elks, specifically Snowmass to Capitol or vice versa........I can see that being the mental/physical/technical crux of the whole project. (If you want to get the record, you'll have to follow some of the Cap Snow ridge) Unless you plan on doing them seperate or connecting them by the basin after descending Snowmass's standard route or some other way not by that ridge. Otherwise a rope will be needed for some good old Satan punishment. 8) But seriously, really scout out what your going to do there because for me, if I was ever considering this, that would be the part of it I would want to figure out most. And for Cave Dog that's the part he wished he would of studied more.

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Re: Attempt at Teddy Keizer's Speed Record

Postby 55mountains » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:41 am

Randy, a clif bar would be amazing.

dswink, climbing all the 14er’s in one summer would be a worthy goal. Climbing them all is also a goal of mine. That goal in itself is most definitely an accomplishment, though not enough. As far as being free school/work, for the most part yes. I will graduate from UNM in May which will free up a lot of time. As far as work goes, it could go either way, working is not a priority for me, the time can be found to pursue what I want to do.
Tory Wells, I also believe that it should be mandatory to climb all of them before them.

Justiner, agreed.

jameseroni, without the support of the people here on the forum there shouldn’t be an attempt. As far as motivation goes, it is not a problem at the moment. As far swaying the decision to make an attempt, it would matter, as far as I’m concerned the people here are the utmost authority on the 14er’s. Support from the people here in absolutely vital to accomplishing the goal.

Cheeseburglar, if true I commend him on that, but that is beyond extreme. It is not necessary to take it to such a level, there are other ways to prepare for the record attempt.
Winter8000m, I appreciate the advice, and judging from you website your advice is always welcome Prior knowledge of the peaks is an absolute must. In order deal with harder routes my philosophy will be bypass them, simple as that. If that requires finding a more technical route, so be it. This where training specifically geared to rock climbing comes into play. If it takes less time take a straight line versus a meandering common route and taking on a little risk, then that is where the attempt becomes special. To be successful I will have to rely on the experience of other people. Each peak represents a separate challenge. One which will test everything I know as well as presenting a mental challenge more than anything els.
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Re: Attempt at Teddy Keizer's Speed Record

Postby Cave Dog » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:23 am

55mountains,

Congratulations on your embarking on this new adventure. Let me be one more to encourage you. The 14ers are a wonderful array of amazing peaks, from long easy walk ups to awe inspiring technical climbs. You will experience first hand the gorgeous red rocks of the Elks and the bold peaks of the San Juans. You will climb atop Longs and wonder if life could get any better. You will stand astride a divide of a great continent and feel atop of the world. The 14ers provide a diversity of experiences that can only be experienced in Colorado. In the next couple of years, as you train and begin to appreciate the magnitude of the adventure, you will be inspired by the mountain goats and big horns, the sky pilots blooming at 14,000 and the evidence of a long gone hardier bunch than us all that lived at altitude picking away at the rocks looking for an allusive fortune. The 14ers are a one of a kind. Your adventure will be unique and something that you will carry with you for the rest of your days. I wish you all the luck in your pursuit of grace amongst a daunting goal that pushes you to new heights.

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Re: Attempt at Teddy Keizer's Speed Record

Postby Oman » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:57 am

Wisdom from the Oracle!
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Re: Attempt at Teddy Keizer's Speed Record

Postby its_not_a_tuba » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:57 am

"Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:48 am"

Cave Dog you don't sleep much do you?
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Re: Attempt at Teddy Keizer's Speed Record

Postby Rainier_Wolfcastle » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:01 am

I am only a fringe member of the CO Mountaineering Community, but you have my support.

Thank you 55mountains for starting this thread. I knew of Cave Dog's record, but this thread sparked my interest into actually reading about how he did it. For some reason I always thought a helicopter was involved to take him from Trailhead to Trailhead...I'm even more impressed now that I know he did it by more humble means.

I have been working on my first loop around these things for 16 years, so anyone that does it in a year, much less 10 days, is the MAN!

On top of Winter8000m's advice, I would suggest really getting to know the more confusing and technical portions of Cave Dog's routes:
1) The whole Capitol/Snowmass route...I tried to do it as a loop w/out the traverse years ago and it did not work out. But there is no way to beat the record doing these two peaks individually.
2) The Bells Traverse, must be done to get the record.
3) Blanca to Lindsey Ridge (is that Gash Ridge...I forget)(not terrible but needs to be experienced)...plus getting from Lindsey to Lily Lake TH can be trouble...there seems to be many spurs off the main trail that can lead you astray
4) Obviously Halfmoon trail to Holy Cross...many people have never been seen again after starting this hike, not to mention TH closures, this maybe one with a shorter route than Cave Dog's
5) Culebra will be tough...you can schedule a day...but if you have to wait at the gate for Carlos, then fill out paperwork, etc...could cost you hours.
6) I am not sure what route Cave Dog came down off of Crestone Peak to get directly to Bear's Playground (I only know the snow route)...you would need to figure this out to avoid doing Broken Hand Pass twice and needing to regain the Humboldt Ridge. Plus the South Colony Lakes road is closed lower than before...so you will need to cover more ground that Cave Dog on this one.

I would pick his easiest times and try to beat those, than work my way up. GOOD LUCK!
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